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  • #51
    Originally posted by BrooklynBomber View Post
    There is no such thing as reverse racism, racism is not exclusive to one specific race, so no need to claim it and come up with new terms.
    Dont get so wrapped up in the terms when you know what I mean.

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    • #52
      My Slavic ancestors never enslaved black people. Povetkin, Adamek, the Klitschkos, Tszyu and the other East European fighters do not have ancestors who had anything to do with slavery.

      During the Bolshevik purges of the 20s and 30s, some 15-20 million Ukrainian, Russian and other Slavic Christians were killed, many deliberately starved to death, their churches burned as the Bolsheviks tried to eradicate Christianity. Others were enslaved by the communists and separated from their families. And during the **** invasion of 1941-44, the suffering of people in Eastern Europe continued. My four grandparents were there during that time, and later immigrated to the US and Canada.

      Slavic people suffered worse than black people in America during that time. Blacks were freed in 1863 in the US, but under the early years of communist rule, people in the USSR were truly enslaved. I am aware that similar horrors happened in other communist countries, such as in China in the 50s and 60s, and in Cambodia under Pol Pot in the late 1970s.

      I am expected to approve of black boxing fans like Allucard, Bhopreign, and Horus rooting only for black fighters, yet myself and WLAD OWNS are called racist because we root for Slavic boxers. There is no justification for such a double standard.
      Last edited by Ben_London.; 04-06-2009, 09:22 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Underdog82 View Post
        The mores weren't black, and they really didn't enslave the spaniards, just conquered a lot of them and interbreeded

        Mores are Arabs and conquering is pretty much the same ****. You live under somebody else's rules, that's being a slave.

        I am half spanish btw, my mom had very dark brown hair "almost black" when she was younger and brown eyes and some what darker skin than your average white person. She considers herself white but those features are probably from More genes.

        I definitly don't have any black in me.
        Mores are black Arabs

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        • #54
          Originally posted by poontango View Post
          I've been reading a lot of responses from what appears to sound like black posters ( i cant know 100%) who are more than happy to use words like "whiteboy" "white hype" etc...and condone the ridicule of white or european and even latin fighters to an extent, yet they become very irritable the minute anyone fires back about black hype fighters.
          Look at how Popkins got a pass for his racism against Calzaghe. Imagine if Calzaghe said: "I would never let an ignorant, buck tooth nigg er like you beat me"...**** man, Calzaghe would probably be forced to live in exile after a remark like that yet Popkins gets a slap on the wrist.
          So why double standard? Why are you comfortable mocking the Klitschkos or Calzaghe for being white champions and yet you coil in horror when some one has the audacity of throwing it right back in your face.
          There is some racist white *******s out there no doubt, but some of you black posters are no better.
          And please have your argument be better than the "reparations" bull****...I'd rather you just admit you're a racist and be open about it then cowardly hide behind that excuse.
          it's not a big deal. it's just banter

          it's more of a sensitive issue when whites are racist towards blacks for historical reasons and because they are a minority group in the west

          as a "white boy" it's never really bothered me

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Underdog82 View Post
            The mores weren't black, and they really didn't enslave the spaniards, just conquered a lot of them and interbreeded
            Mores are Arabs.

            I am half spanish btw, my mom had very dark brown hair "almost black" when she was younger and brown eyes and some what darker skin than your average white person. She considers herself white but those features are probably from More genes.
            Dont be so naive.
            Actually back then when one nation took over another they usually enslaved the other nation, especially if they were occupying the land for a while. As winners they could take anything. Why do you think they interbred? Because these girls thought the enemies of their land were oh so hot? No, the good old **** and pillaging and taking people into harems was the usual case.
            The only argument was that they did not take everyone into slavery, only the young and good looking, to serve and breed for them. Everyone else were just paying the royalties.

            Slavery was with us since the beginning of times and always was occampanying the war. Africans loved their slave trade just as much as europeans did, in fact most of the transatlantic slave trade(the part where ****** were caught in africa) was done by africans themselves.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by ~Ironfist View Post
              My Slavic ancestors never enslaved black people. Povetkin, Adamek, the Klitschkos, Tszyu and the other East European fighters do not have ancestors who had anything to do with slavery.

              During the Bolshevik purges of the 20s and 30s, some 15-20 million Ukrainian, Russian and other Slavic Christians were killed, many deliberately starved to death, their churches burned as the Bolsheviks tried to eradicate Christianity. Others were enslaved by the communists and separated from their families. And during the **** invasion of 1941-44, the suffering of people in Eastern Europe continued. My four grandparents were there during that time, and later immigrated to the US and Canada.

              Slavic people suffered worse than black people in America during that time. Blacks were freed in 1863 in the US, but under the early years of communist rule, people in the USSR were truly enslaved. I am aware that similar horrors happened in other communist countries, such as in China in the 50s and 60s, and in Cambodia under Pol Pot in the late 1970s.

              I am expected to approve of it being okay for black boxing fans like Allucard, Bhopreign, and Horus to root for black fighters, yet myself and WLAD OWNS are called racist because we root for Slavic boxers. There is no justification for such a double standard.

              Well done...

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Underdog82 View Post
                The mores weren't black, and they really didn't enslave the spaniards, just conquered a lot of them and interbreeded

                Mores are Arabs.

                I am half spanish btw, my mom had very dark brown hair "almost black" when she was younger and brown eyes and some what darker skin than your average white person. She considers herself white but those features are probably from More genes.

                I definitly don't have any black in me.
                Actually it's spelled Moors and they were black, FYI.

                http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/moors1.html

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Allucard View Post
                  The term REVERSE racism is by itself, racist. Think about it. You guys started 2 ****ing world wars, you have dropped the first and (and second btw) only nuclear bombs to ever been dropped on human beings (yet, in the typical hypocrisy you urge for world piece), you terminated the native Americans and put the remaining ones in reservations hahaha "here's some casinos, hope that settles it" and now you ****ed up the economy... Who comes to the rescue? Don't get me wrong i'm all for peace and am half white myself but if any race should deserve to be the target of racism the whites are. Every white knows this too, if they know their history.
                  I think racism's correct direction is that one ^^ if you have to be racist.
                  Wrong, the U.S. entered both wars years after France and England, we didn't start them, we ended them. The nuclear bomb, are you mad at the loss of life? The estimated 200,000 deaths pale in comparison to the millions by Hitler and even more millions by Stalin, to be honest if I had lived at the time period I would have rather seen around 200,000 Japanese die versus a few hundred thousand more American deaths, that's not racism. That's common sense.

                  About the native Americans, yes some horrible **** happened in our past generation, just like any country. All we can do is to admit our cruelty and apologize, which has been done. On top of that this generation of Native Americans is not exactly suffering, there are ample amounts of scholarships and aid available to them.

                  Yes, of course we ****ed over the economy, each and every single American personally hovered their gaping *******s over the economy and dropped a **** on it. We did, I admit it. The fact is our economic crisis is not the result of one person or one countries shortcomings, it is the result of unfortunate **** and malicious bastards from all over the world. Find a scapegoat somewhere else.

                  "If you have to be racist" you see, this is what is called a crutch, you are trying to rationalize why it is o.k. for you to disrespect a race as a whole by citing the injustices of earlier generations. Perhaps you should learn some history, mother****er, because bad **** happens every ****ing day, and not just to you, your people and your fragile ideas of injustice but to everyone of every generation since the beginning of time.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by pesticid View Post
                    Mores are black Arabs
                    Moors are not really Black, depending upon how you define "Black", although they have been portrayed as such in the recent Othello movies (but not in the older movie versions of Othello). Moors are a mix of Arab and Berber.

                    Black people are from the area south of the Sahara in the west, from Guinea to Nigeria, to Kenya, up to the Sudan.

                    The area of Africa north of the Sahara has always been populated by olive-skinned people more closely related to Europeans than to sub-Saharan Blacks. The Egyptians did have Black ****** from areas farther south.
                    Last edited by Ben_London.; 04-06-2009, 09:25 PM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by poontango View Post
                      Dont get so wrapped up in the terms when you know what I mean.
                      I am not slanting you, I am just saying that reverse racism as a term is not taking as harshly as regular racism(I am a social linguist by nature) and that is incorrect because there is no such thing as reverse racism, just plain racism.

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