Quit overrating Valero

[Pullcounter]

A good fighter and learner is never set in their ways.

problem is a good fighter is already good

[krispy kreme]

This happens pretty much anytime a fighter comes along with a little bit of "pop". He knocks out some guys and the general public and casual fans instantly fall in love with him and label him a world beater.

Not that long ago I remember comparisons of Kermit Cintron to Tommy Hearns........

The bottom line is Valero is a pretty good fighter, but that's about it from all I've seen of him.

He was very sloppy last night against Pitalua, particularly when he was going in after the first knockdown.

I didn't see the "calm, calculated finisher" that the commentators told me he was.

I saw a guy who was headhunting, missing half his shots, and having the other half of his shots either partially blocked, or barely grazing Pitalua while he tried his best bob and weave.

LOL @ the Valero hype train.

I agree 100%. I am not going to write Valero off completely, but when he goes aginst a slick boxer with power, he is going to lose.

[talip bin osman]

This happens pretty much anytime a fighter comes along with a little bit of "pop". He knocks out some guys and the general public and casual fans instantly fall in love with him and label him a world beater.

Not that long ago I remember comparisons of Kermit Cintron to Tommy Hearns........

The bottom line is Valero is a pretty good fighter, but that's about it from all I've seen of him.

He was very sloppy last night against Pitalua, particularly when he was going in after the first knockdown.

I didn't see the "calm, calculated finisher" that the commentators told me he was.

I saw a guy who was headhunting, missing half his shots, and having the other half of his shots either partially blocked, or barely grazing Pitalua while he tried his best bob and weave.

LOL @ the Valero hype train.

bringer my man...

u will hurt dougie fischer's feelings with this thread!

[ELHURACAN58]

The last person I can remember in my mind that got KO'd that fast for a title match Jones vs. Tarver and Tyson vs. Berbick. No hype when you can do it under 2 and win a major title. That's some serious work.

Lol I bet you dont see Juanma fight do you?

[RRICAN]

Lol I bet you dont see Juanma fight do you?

3 fights in less than 5 mins, cant blame him . Juanma is just f.cking good !!!

[katsidismichael]

This happens pretty much anytime a fighter comes along with a little bit of "pop". He knocks out some guys and the general public and casual fans instantly fall in love with him and label him a world beater.

Not that long ago I remember comparisons of Kermit Cintron to Tommy Hearns........

The bottom line is Valero is a pretty good fighter, but that's about it from all I've seen of him.

He was very sloppy last night against Pitalua, particularly when he was going in after the first knockdown.

I didn't see the "calm, calculated finisher" that the commentators told me he was.

I saw a guy who was headhunting, missing half his shots, and having the other half of his shots either partially blocked, or barely grazing Pitalua while he tried his best bob and weave.

LOL @ the Valero hype train.

ONLY OVERRATED guy is in your avatar B-HOP!

WAR VALERO WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[MaYaN_SuN]

Valero is beyond ripe to be picked apart. I think Marquez can do it if they fought. It's just Valero is a fighter that I personally can't, and won't deny. Somthin about him looks familiar enough to support. As much as I want to like him and probably will like him, I'd still go for Antillon over him. I think if you take the head gear off of each fighter and let each fighter work of eachothers punches...I think Antillon will find a way to win in incredible fashion. Urbano is just too accurate and strong I think. But even still, I'm actually lookin forward to seein Valero rip **** up in his career in the states.

[JOM'S]

i think valero is a guy that should be takin seriously....but i let him clean out some more legit guys at 135, before he gets a big money fight.....let him fight guys like casamayor, and juan and david diaz

this are good suggestion for valero's next fight and would also like to see him against katsidis ...

imho the hype is good, if he keeps on winning, he may just win the pacman lottery...

[ELHURACAN58]

Valero is beyond ripe to be picked apart. I think Marquez can do it if they fought. It's just Valero is a fighter that I personally can't, and won't deny. Somthin about him looks familiar enough to support. As much as I want to like him and probably will like him, I'd still go for Antillon over him. I think if you take the head gear off of each fighter and let each fighter work of eachothers punches...I think Antillon will find a way to win in incredible fashion. Urbano is just too accurate and strong I think. But even still, I'm actually lookin forward to seein Valero rip **** up in his career in the states.

Ha! Marquez takes too many shots to the face. If light-hitting Diaz could bust up his face, you know Valero will beat him to a bloody pulp. Antillon might beat him, but he hasnt proved himself, and his opponents arent even contenders for world title fights.

[Silencers]

I've seen a lot of Valero's fights and I can say that he has improved technically, he's not overcommiting as much, using his jab more, is more controlled but with that being said, I was a little disappointed because the word coming out of the gyms was that Valero had improved drastically and I didn't see that, he has improved but it's nowhere near as much as some writers have made it out to be. His power can get him by against a lot of people but I don't think it will against the cream of the crop at lightweight. If he keeps improving and correcting his fundamentals, he'll be a very tough guy to beat though.