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  • Pullcounter
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    #71
    Originally posted by MELLY-MEL...
    juan diaz a gate keeper? not in my book. he just fought a fighter i would basically signify as that. time to step into the bigs.
    pitalua a gatekeeper??? ***** plz!!!

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    • Pullcounter
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      #72
      Originally posted by street bully
      Juan Diaz is no gatekeeper. He gave JMM a life or death fight.
      yeah, but juan diaz came up short 2x... once against campbell and again against jmm... both are the best boxers that diaz has ever fought and he failed twice.

      diaz is a gatekeeper.

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      • street bully
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        #73
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        yeah, but juan diaz came up short 2x... once against campbell and again against jmm... both are the best boxers that diaz has ever fought and he failed twice.

        diaz is a gatekeeper.
        Zab Judah is a gatekeeper, Edison Miranda is a gatekeeper, Kermit Cintron is a Gatekeeper, Juan Diaz is no gatekeeper.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #74
          Originally posted by street bully
          Zab Judah is a gatekeeper, Edison Miranda is a gatekeeper, Kermit Cintron is a Gatekeeper, Juan Diaz is no gatekeeper.
          what do all those guys have in common???

          they all fail at the elite level.

          diaz is a gatekeeper.

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          • Ch@mpBox@PR
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            #75
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            what do all those guys have in common???

            they all fail at the elite level.

            diaz is a gatekeeper.
            Damn. I dont think Diaz is a gatekeeper but you have a really strong point there

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            • Owlzfan84
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              #76
              Quick question...how can you be overrated when just about everyone is calling you overrated?

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              • Ch@mpBox@PR
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                #77
                About the thread. Every bg puncher always hets overhyped.

                But I think Valero do have some skills, they just need to be polish.

                And now, that he is being train by alcaza, youll see a big improivement technically wise. Alcazar is a underrated trainer. he is damn good.

                And anyways, wasnt Manny Pacquaio a 1-2 come forward guy, for most of his career? and now, he has become a great combination puncher, with great movement and a tight defense and he is P4P number 1.

                Gice Valero some time. hell improve. With his new trainer and with good training he can improve a lot!!!!!!

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                  About the thread. Every bg puncher always hets overhyped.

                  But I think Valero do have some skills, they just need to be polish.

                  And now, that he is being train by alcaza, youll see a big improivement technically wise. Alcazar is a underrated trainer. he is damn good.

                  And anyways, wasnt Manny Pacquaio a 1-2 come forward guy, for most of his career? and now, he has become a great combination puncher, with great movement and a tight defense and he is P4P number 1.

                  Gice Valero some time. hell improve. With his new trainer and with good training he can improve a lot!!!!!!
                  but roach got pac when pac was young; valero might be too set in his ways

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                  • Verstyle
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    but roach got pac when pac was young; valero might be too set in his ways
                    A good fighter and learner is never set in their ways.

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                    • Ch@mpBox@PR
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by VERSATILE2K9
                      A good fighter and learner is never set in their ways.
                      Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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