Who would be more competitive against Floyd Mayweather...Pacquaio or Cotto?

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  • El Dominicano
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    Who would be more competitive against Floyd Mayweather...Pacquaio or Cotto?

    I know I made a thread saying "Which win should Floyd get more credit for, Cotto or Pacman?" and to my surprise alot of people said Cotto. It was weird hearing that because Cotto isn't nearly as accomplished as Pacquaio. It seems to me that Floyd would get more credit beating Cotto because of the simple fact that Cotto is bigger? and I've said it before Mayweather and Pac are closer in size then Mayweather and Cotto but here is my question...

    Who would put up a better challenge against Floyd Mayweather Cotto or Pacquaio? Miguel Cotto's problem is his stamina and the uppercut is his weakness (Which wouldn't matter because Floyd rarely throws em) Cotto is a really good brawler but I'll say Floyd has seen better (JLC) and Cotto can box (Which will be suicide against Floyd)

    Now Pacquaio's problem is more to do with his balance and his right hook es busura (No offense). His balance is a major problem, if it wasn't we wouldn't be debating as to who won between JMM and Pacquaio 1st and 2nd fight (Which in my opinion, Pac lost both fights) Pacquaio would always get off balance and JMM would always capitalize in those situations. Pacquaio doesn't have that many weaknesses

    Now, I'll talk about how good they are. Cotto has good speed and great timing to go with it. He pretty much has the best body attack in boxing right now but really...and I'm being honest, I don't see him giving Floyd that much problems. His boxing abilities aren't gonna help him and he'll have to resort to brawling (Something Floyd has seen way too many times before) I have a feeling Floyd would easily throw him off his game and yes, I'm talking about elbows and forearms in his face

    Pacquaio is considered to be faster then Floyd (Which I disagree) and has really good workrate and unlike Cotto, Pacquaio isn't gonna get tired. Plus Pacquaio is a south paw...I really don't know how Mayweather will face the guy. Mayweather has never faced an opponent like Pac, the only fighter that comes close is Zab Judah and we all know Zab Judah is NOTHING like Pac. Pacquaio has really good footwork and provides angles. Reason why I believe Pacquaio would put up a better challenge

    So I ask, who would put up a better challenge against Floyd Mayweather Cotto or Pacquaio? Please discuss
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    I actually think Cotto could beat Floyd, that's if the Margs fight didn't take too much out of him. Pac will be Ricky Hatton all over again.

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    • savorduhflavor
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      Cotto, without a doubt. I honestly don't think Pac/Floyd would be that competitive. Horrible style matchup for Pac, Floyd will neutralize that left hand and after that, it's curtains.

      I think Cotto would give Floyd problems. His timing with his stiff, stiff jab can throw Floyd's timing off a bit. A good jab gives Floyd some problems. And thing is, Cotto's not a brawler. He won't resort to brawling because it's just not really in his nature. He uses very selective pressure, he isn't your classic come forward pressure fighter, he's smarter than that.

      I think it would look similar to the DLH fight. Cotto would have some success early, but eventually Floyd would figure him out and win a fairly competitive, but clear decision.

      Floyd KO's Pac, and I have zero doubts about that.

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        #4
        Originally posted by El Dominicano
        I know I made a thread saying "Which win should Floyd get more credit for, Cotto or Pacman?" and to my surprise alot of people said Cotto. It was weird hearing that because Cotto isn't nearly as accomplished as Pacquaio. It seems to me that Floyd would get more credit beating Cotto because of the simple fact that Cotto is bigger? and I've said it before Mayweather and Pac are closer in size then Mayweather and Cotto but here is my question...

        Who would put up a better challenge against Floyd Mayweather Cotto or Pacquaio? Miguel Cotto's problem is his stamina and the uppercut is his weakness (Which wouldn't matter because Floyd rarely throws em) Cotto is a really good brawler but I'll say Floyd has seen better (JLC) and Cotto can box (Which will be suicide against Floyd)

        Now Pacquaio's problem is more to do with his balance and his right hook es busura (No offense). His balance is a major problem, if it wasn't we wouldn't be debating as to who won between JMM and Pacquaio 1st and 2nd fight (Which in my opinion, Pac lost both fights) Pacquaio would always get off balance and JMM would always capitalize in those situations. Paquaio doesn't have that many weaknesses

        Now, I'll talk about how good they are. Cotto has good speed and great timing to go with it. He pretty much has the best body attack in boxing right now but really...and I'm being honest, I don't see him giving Floyd that much problems. His boxing abilities aren't gonna help him and he'll have to resort to brawling (Something Floyd has seen way too many times before) I have a feeling Floyd would easily throw him off his game and yes, I'm talking about elbows and forearms in his face

        Pacquaio is considered to be faster then Floyd (Which I disagree) and has really good workrate and unlike Cotto, Pacquaio isn't gonna get tired. Plus Pacquaio is a south paw...I really don't know how Mayweather will face the guy. Mayweather has never faced an opponent like Pac, the only fighter that comes close is Zab Judah and we all know Zab Judah is NOTHING like Pac. Pacquaio has really good footwork and provides angles. Reason why I believe Pacquaio would put up a better challenge

        So I ask, who would put up a better challenge against Floyd Mayweather Cotto or Pacquaio? Please discuss
        I think they're equally competitive for different reasons.

        With Pac he's got the southpaw style he has to deal with along with Manny's constant activity and movement around the ring. Manny's also very deceptive with the way he comes in and being a southpaw fighter adds that much more intrigue. Can Floyd beat him? I believe so. Can Manny beat Floyd? I believe so too.

        With Cotto it's a different story. With Manny I see Floyd exchanging with him selectively. I don't necessarily see him doing that so much with Cotto but he'd use his defense to his advantage. The thing with cotto I like is how he lures you in and when you least expect it you got a straight right hand followed by 2 body shots, and backs off. He's another really deceptive fighter as been told by his previous opponents. Can Floyd beat Cotto? Yes. Can Cotto beat Floyd? Yes

        Between the two, I see Floyd being a little more offensive against Pac than Cotto. I don't see him exchanging heavy with Cotto at all.

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          Originally posted by El Dominicano
          I know I made a thread saying "Which win should Floyd get more credit for, Cotto or Pacman?" and to my surprise alot of people said Cotto. It was weird hearing that because Cotto isn't nearly as accomplished as Pacquaio. It seems to me that Floyd would get more credit beating Cotto because of the simple fact that Cotto is bigger? and I've said it before Mayweather and Pac are closer in size then Mayweather and Cotto but here is my question...

          Who would put up a better challenge against Floyd Mayweather Cotto or Pacquaio? Miguel Cotto's problem is his stamina and the uppercut is his weakness (Which wouldn't matter because Floyd rarely throws em) Cotto is a really good brawler but I'll say Floyd has seen better (JLC) and Cotto can box (Which will be suicide against Floyd)

          Now Pacquaio's problem is more to do with his balance and his right hook es busura (No offense). His balance is a major problem, if it wasn't we wouldn't be debating as to who won between JMM and Pacquaio 1st and 2nd fight (Which in my opinion, Pac lost both fights) Pacquaio would always get off balance and JMM would always capitalize in those situations. Paquaio doesn't have that many weaknesses

          Now, I'll talk about how good they are. Cotto has good speed and great timing to go with it. He pretty much has the best body attack in boxing right now but really...and I'm being honest, I don't see him giving Floyd that much problems. His boxing abilities aren't gonna help him and he'll have to resort to brawling (Something Floyd has seen way too many times before) I have a feeling Floyd would easily throw him off his game and yes, I'm talking about elbows and forearms in his face

          Pacquaio is considered to be faster then Floyd (Which I disagree) and has really good workrate and unlike Cotto, Pacquaio isn't gonna get tired. Plus Pacquaio is a south paw...I really don't know how Mayweather will face the guy. Mayweather has never faced an opponent like Pac, the only fighter that comes close is Zab Judah and we all know Zab Judah is NOTHING like Pac. Pacquaio has really good footwork and provides angles. Reason why I believe Pacquaio would put up a better challenge

          So I ask, who would put up a better challenge against Floyd Mayweather Cotto or Pacquaio? Please discuss
          pac has great head movement, hand speed, and is southpaw..... cotto cant block a right hand to have his life........ pac is much harder to fight

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          • El Dominicano
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            Originally posted by savorduhflavor
            Cotto, without a doubt. I honestly don't think Pac/Floyd would be that competitive. Horrible style matchup for Pac, Floyd will neutralize that left hand and after that, it's curtains.

            I think Cotto would give Floyd problems. His timing with his stiff, stiff jab can throw Floyd's timing off a bit. A good jab gives Floyd some problems. And thing is, Cotto's not a brawler. He won't resort to brawling because it's just not really in his nature. He uses very selective pressure, he isn't your classic come forward pressure fighter, he's smarter than that.

            I think it would look similar to the DLH fight. Cotto would have some success early, but eventually Floyd would figure him out and win a fairly competitive, but clear decision.

            Floyd KO's Pac, and I have zero doubts about that.
            Good point but I think he'll have to work more against Pacquaio. He'll have to be alot more active then he was against Hatton/ DLH due to the simple fact that Pacquaio can match his speed and his workrate is just insane

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            • Sin City
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              Cotto no doubt about it.

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              • Sin City
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                Originally posted by a-raines21
                pac has great head movement, hand speed, and is southpaw..... cotto cant block a right hand to have his life........ pac is much harder to fight
                lol @ floyd stans trying to hype up a smaller man to justify him taking the easier fight.

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                • Ryn0
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                  Originally posted by chicano79us
                  I actually think Cotto could beat Floyd, that's if the Margs fight didn't take too much out of him. Pac will be Ricky Hatton all over again.
                  Cotto, Pacquiao has been hit and hurt by smaller guys than Floyd that are very smart counter punchers. A counter puncher with a good chin and a better defense than Marquez will beat Pacquiao soundly.

                  Mayweather fits that mould, on the other hand Cotto has usually been only troubled by guys who can come forward and exchange. He had major chin problems at 140 but surprisingly almost none at 147 (he went down willingly) Mayweather doesn't fit that mould. Cotto is a great body puncher and provides MORE angles than Pacquiao.

                  Pacquiao offers straight punchers almost all the time, sometimes they are kind of looping punches but much closer to straight ones apart from his uppercut. Cotto goes for all types of punches hooks, straights, uppercuts to head and body, left hook to the body.

                  Cotto offers the bigger threat AND he has a size advantage over Pacquiao and Mayweather.

                  We all know Pacquiao main weapon is the straight left, Floyd will take it away and Pacquiao will be left with little (as much as I like the guy) I honestly think Pacquiao-mayweather would be a blowout. Cotto is the guy I give the best chance to beat Mayweather right now from 140-154

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                    Originally posted by Sin City
                    lol @ floyd stans trying to hype up a smaller man to justify him taking the easier fight.
                    pac could beat cotto easily..... size dont mean **** in this game....... skill pay billshomie..... u boxx, u should know this

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