Edwin Valero’s Perfect Punch Storms The Lightweights

[poontango]

Valero does have horrible technique, and at this weight not extremely fast. He does have some pop that's for sure but he is light years away from being anything close to Marquez. I like to see him fight someone like Katsidis or a Juan Diaz. I think guys like pac or Hatton destroy this guy. Punches are extremely wide, and his level of competition is nothing to brag about. Arum needs to get this guy a legitimate fight, NOW. Hell I even think Khan would destroy him. Cash in while you can Bob because your boy's chin that is sticking out just begging to be hit will eventually be and what happens afterwards is anybody's guess. I'm going out on a limb and saying that the result will not be good.

We saw the exact same thing. Valero looks very beatable.

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I think Edwin Valero would Knock the Baby Bull out cold mostly due to Juan Diaz pressure style coming in throwing punches with lil defense. Valero hits too hard for the Baby Bull to charge in exchanging punches with the lil power he has. The same goes for Michael Katsidis. Only a real counter/defensive technician will beat Valero. If a fighter gets hit a lot in the ring then I'm sure Valero will beat them.

I would pick Valero as the favorite against JMM/Hatton/Pacquiao. We still don't know how good Valero chin is but if he keeps his hands down like that then obviously he's not worried. I'm not with the excuses, first people say "Who has Valero fought"? Then he KO's a guy that haven't been KO'd since 1995 in the 2nd round? now that guy he KO'd wasn't a notable win for Valero? That's BS. Didn't Pitalua come off of a impressive KO win against Jose Armando Santa Cruz? Valero is a problem for anyone from 135 to 140.

[Doc Holliday]

I think Edwin Valero would Knock the Baby Bull out cold mostly due to Juan Diaz pressure style coming in throwing punches with lil defense. Valero hits too hard for the Baby Bull to charge in exchanging punches with the lil power he has. The same goes for Michael Katsidis. Only a real counter/defensive technician will beat Valero. If a fighter gets hit a lot in the ring then I'm sure Valero will beat them.

I would pick Valero as the favorite against JMM/Hatton/Pacquiao. We still don't know how good Valero chin is but if he keeps his hands down like that then obviously he's not worried. I'm not with the excuses, first people say "Who has Valero fought"? Then he KO's a guy that haven't been KO'd since 1995 in the 2nd round? now that guy he KO'd wasn't a notable win for Valero? That's BS. Didn't Pitalua come off of a impressive KO win against Jose Armando Santa Cruz? Valero is a problem for anyone from 135 to 140.

Well said, I agree with most of what you're saying. Which is why we won't see Valero vs Pac or JMM for a while if ever. Also, both Arum and Schaefer have expressed a reluctance to put Pac or JMM in the ring with Valero anytime soon.

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damn....he's really got the punch! lost my prediction there. Nevertheless, valero didn't prove anything yet in terms of defense, chin, boxing ability and endurance. time for him with mesh it good with the other LW and prove himself some more. he's not in the same league with manny, ricky, jmm.

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I think Edwin Valero would Knock the Baby Bull out cold mostly due to Juan Diaz pressure style coming in throwing punches with lil defense. Valero hits too hard for the Baby Bull to charge in exchanging punches with the lil power he has. The same goes for Michael Katsidis. Only a real counter/defensive technician will beat Valero. If a fighter gets hit a lot in the ring then I'm sure Valero will beat them.

I would pick Valero as the favorite against JMM/Hatton/Pacquiao. We still don't know how good Valero chin is but if he keeps his hands down like that then obviously he's not worried. I'm not with the excuses, first people say "Who has Valero fought"? Then he KO's a guy that haven't been KO'd since 1995 in the 2nd round? now that guy he KO'd wasn't a notable win for Valero? That's BS. Didn't Pitalua come off of a impressive KO win against Jose Armando Santa Cruz? Valero is a problem for anyone from 135 to 140.

Dude, you need to get your head examined. You would pick Valero as the favorite against JMM/Pac/Hatton?
ummmm....Based on what?
Him knocking out crappy unknown fighters in Japan and blowing out a 40 year old journeyman whose biggest win was against another crappy journeyman Santa Cruz?
Put down the blunt bro.

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Dude, you need to get your head examined. You would pick Valero as the favorite against JMM/Pac/Hatton?
ummmm....Based on what?
Him knocking out crappy unknown fighters in Japan and blowing out a 40 year old journeyman whose biggest win was against another crappy journeyman Santa Cruz?
Put down the blunt bro.

Dude, I would pick Valero over them because as long as JMM/Pac/Hatton
can get hit flush (LIKE THEY OFTEN DO) Valero has a chance to KO any
of them. His power is VERY IMPRESSIVE and he KO'd a guy that hasn't
been KO'd since 95? Now you want to discredit his win because the guy
is 39? Bernhard is 42? Mosley is 37? Stop making excuses because the
only reason why you think Valero stands no chance is because he hasn't
fought a mainstream name and that's Bull****.

What makes JMM/Pac/HAtton so unbeatable to a guy with 25 wins all by KO? Bottom line, Valero is a threat. This is his first fight on US soil & Pitalua was supposed to be a test for him especially since he came off a big win. I don't get how people on this site are always quick to discredit a fighters victory but before it, says he has no chance to win it? Valero came to US and made quick work of a competitor that has no history of being stopped in more than 10 years and you want to take that accomplishment away from him? I guarantee Valero wins every fight from here on.

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Dude, I would pick Valero over them because as long as JMM/Pac/Hatton
can get hit flush (LIKE THEY OFTEN DO) Valero has a chance to KO any
of them. His power is VERY IMPRESSIVE and he KO'd a guy that hasn't
been KO'd since 95? Now you want to discredit his win because the guy
is 39? Bernhard is 42? Mosley is 37? Stop making excuses because the
only reason why you think Valero stands no chance is because he hasn't
fought a mainstream name and that's Bull****.

What makes JMM/Pac/HAtton so unbeatable to a guy with 25 wins all by KO? Bottom line, Valero is a threat. This is his first fight on US soil & Pitalua was supposed to be a test for him especially since he came off a big win. I don't get how people on this site are always quick to discredit a fighters victory but before it, says he has no chance to win it? Valero came to US and made quick work of a competitor that has no history of being stopped in more than 10 years and you want to take that accomplishment away from him? I guarantee Valero wins every fight from here on.

grustler my man...

howr u doin'? yeah i agree... all valero needs is one shot to make things interesting in these fights against the lites in & around his division...

but if u still remember john mugabi, he was like valero in many ways... high KO percentage and bouts that would not last long...

but when mugabi stepped up his competition, & met an elite fighter, he crumbled and eventually fell down... & IMHO, defeating a 39 year old journey man who never really fought back proved little... a journeyman... mosley & hokins are no journeymen...

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grustler my man...

howr u doin'? yeah i agree... all valero needs is one shot to make things interesting in these fights against the lites in & around his division...

but if u still remember john mugabi, he was like valero in many ways... high KO percentage and bouts that would not last long...

but when mugabi stepped up his competition, & met an elite fighter, he crumbled and eventually fell down... & IMHO, defeating a 39 year old journey man who never really fought back proved little... a journeyman... mosley & hokins are no journeymen...

I hear you but something about Valero is making me think that he is a serious customer. He is still improving and has a lot to prove but can't totally count him out against guys with big names like JMM/Hatton/Pac because who knows how well they will be able to box this guy until it happens. Pacquiao's been rocked before and wobbled, so has Hatton & JMM has been dropped by almost everyone he has fought in the elite ranks. Granted we still need to see more from him but I don't think he will crumble against these guys especially if he's giving the opportunity to fight them. Pacquiao has been beat, Hatton and JMM. Who knows if they will totally dominate this guy?

[poontango]

Dude, I would pick Valero over them because as long as JMM/Pac/Hatton
can get hit flush (LIKE THEY OFTEN DO) Valero has a chance to KO any
of them. His power is VERY IMPRESSIVE and he KO'd a guy that hasn't
been KO'd since 95? Now you want to discredit his win because the guy
is 39? Bernhard is 42? Mosley is 37? Stop making excuses because the
only reason why you think Valero stands no chance is because he hasn't
fought a mainstream name and that's Bull****.

What makes JMM/Pac/HAtton so unbeatable to a guy with 25 wins all by KO? Bottom line, Valero is a threat. This is his first fight on US soil & Pitalua was supposed to be a test for him especially since he came off a big win. I don't get how people on this site are always quick to discredit a fighters victory but before it, says he has no chance to win it? Valero came to US and made quick work of a competitor that has no history of being stopped in more than 10 years and you want to take that accomplishment away from him? I guarantee Valero wins every fight from here on.

So you're giving him a punchers chance...lol...I guess technically every guy w/ a decent k.o % has a punchers chance.
And yeah competition level has everything to do with it. I'm pretty sure JMM/PAC/Hatton can go fight in Japan and be 25-0 with 25 ko's fighting the scrubs Valero's fought.
I'm not trying to discredit his win over whoever that was, but to say he's ready to fight the h.o.f guys is absurd.
Punchers chance?? Maybe...but all those guys have proven they can take big shots and come back and win.
Valero is what he is. A strong, limited, slow, predictable slugger.
If those fights ever come off I'll gladly take some of your points from you if you really wanna stand behind this guy.
But Valero hasnt done anything to deserve a shot at the big time yet. I'd like to see how he does against Juan Diaz, Guzman, Katsidis or Campbell before he gets Pac/JMM/Hatton.

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So you're giving him a punchers chance...lol...I guess technically every guy w/ a decent k.o % has a punchers chance.
And yeah competition level has everything to do with it. I'm pretty sure JMM/PAC/Hatton can go fight in Japan and be 25-0 with 25 ko's fighting the scrubs Valero's fought.
I'm not trying to discredit his win over whoever that was, but to say he's ready to fight the h.o.f guys is absurd.
Punchers chance?? Maybe...but all those guys have proven they can take big shots and come back and win.
Valero is what he is. A strong, limited, slow, predictable slugger.
If those fights ever come off I'll gladly take some of your points from you if you really wanna stand behind this guy.
But Valero hasnt done anything to deserve a shot at the big time yet. I'd like to see how he does against Juan Diaz, Guzman, Katsidis or Campbell before he gets Pac/JMM/Hatton.

I agree that he should be tested more but I give him a definite punchers chance against any of them. For the record I think he smashes Diaz,
Katsidis maybe Campbell (If Campbell fights him like he did against FuneKa) the only one I think will give him problems is Guzman because Guzman
fights technical and evasive in his fights but for guys who want to go
punch for punch with Valero is going down. Only a really good defense
wil kill a really strong offensive fighter. JMM Marquez has been dropped
by Barrera and Pac tagged by him would you say that Barrera is faster
than Valero? Hatton gets tagged a lot too. All I'm saying is that Valero
is a big threat for anyone from 135 to 140.