Antonio Margarito has never cheated.

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  • savorduhflavor
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    #41
    Originally posted by Executioner54
    A Lifetime ban is ******ed and ridiculous.

    What he ATTEMPTED to do is disgraceful, but he didn't do anything disgraceful.

    You know better.
    No. He loaded his wraps. He did do that. That's disgraceful.

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      #42
      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
      No. He loaded his wraps. He did do that. That's disgraceful.
      He loaded his wraps for the purpose of doing something disgraceful.

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      • VaBoriKua 2.0
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        #43
        Originally posted by Malcolm.
        No he tried it on Williams and failed. Due to Williams’s incredible heart and chin. The same as the Cotto fight. Margarito started very slow
        not as slow as he did in the williams fight and williams is easier to hit look at the quintana fight. He started getting strong in the 6th or 7th round. Against cotto he was landing from the second round with that plaster. Im sure that if he had plaster against williams williams woulda been down.

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        • F l i c k e r
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          #44
          Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::.
          The **** was ALREADY IN HIS WRAP!!..it WASN'T caught right BEFORE it was going in..or on the floor next to Capetillo's foot when Margarito's hands were done..

          Margarito having them in his WRAP already was more than "Attempt" it was on the verge of being DONE..

          and to those simple minded who believe it was his first time..and want to call it "speculations" and "assumptions" it's kinda funny how COMMON SENSE doesn't kick in...
          A wise man once said "You cant argue with dumb people.. they will bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience."

          let someone else explain it to you. I tried as hard as could, seriously. Would anyone be generous enough to explain it to him?

          I am in no way a Margarito fan. Im just going by what is fair and what isn't.

          Originally posted by vaborikua
          Well to you but since the guy lied on it on tv and denied it . Then had the nerve to lie about it again saying he didnt kno only a dumb ass believes this was his first time. Come on alot of people saw cotto beat mosley and mosley have a hard time with mayorga. also he was already talking about his remtach with cotto sort off writing off mosley already seeing the decline in him. So why wouldnt he have used them with the man who beat mosley whos undefeated the biggest payday of his career and biggest fight of his career. Why wouldnt he? Seeing how mosley looked bad against mayorga and everything why did he use it just on shane? For me he attempted to use it and hurt cotto and johnson in my opinion with it.
          All speculation. I dont put it pass him that he might have used it. However we cant say he did and just completely try to remove him from boxing. That is why we have the US judicial system. Innocent till proven guilty. So another witch hunt of Salem doesn't happen again.

          We can also assume that Cotto just has problems with tall, weird-sluggers, with great chins. It was his first loss and who else has he fought that is similar to Margarito?

          Originally posted by savorduhflavor
          I hear ya. But to me it's just as bad man. He didn't just have a change of heart. He got caught. If he didn't get caught he would have went through with it.

          Lifetime ban, it's debatable. But what he did is disgraceful.
          I agree with you. Its bad that he even attempted it but its not worth banning him for. If he actually used it, and we have proof of him using it against people in the past. Then im all for his ban but we dont so banning him is excessive.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Executioner54
            He loaded his wraps for the purpose of doing something disgraceful.
            This is just semantics.

            Some people go wayy too far condemning him.

            Some people go too far trying to excuse him on legal technicalities.

            Both are ridiculous. He attempted to cheat with plaster of paris. Only reason he didn't is because he got caught. That is disgraceful. There is no counter argument.

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              #46
              Originally posted by vaborikua
              not as slow as he did in the williams fight and williams is easier to hit look at the quintana fight. He started getting strong in the 6th or 7th round. Against cotto he was landing from the second round with that plaster. Im sure that if he had plaster against williams williams woulda been down.
              More maybe you are underestimating Williams chin

              Plaster would harden until like 5 or 6th round. When Toney started to do real damage

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                #47
                Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                This is just semantics.

                Some people go wayy too far condemning him.

                Some people go too far trying to excuse him on legal technicalities.

                Both are ridiculous. He attempted to cheat with plaster of paris. Only reason he didn't is because he got caught. That is disgraceful. There is no counter argument.
                He does not deserve to be banned for life is all I'm saying.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Malcolm.
                  More maybe you are underestimating Williams chin

                  Plaster would harden until like 5 or 6th round. When Toney started to do real damage
                  no when tony actually started pressuring him and throwing punches. he wasnt really pressuring him till then.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                    A wise man once said "You cant argue with dumb people.. they will bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience."

                    let someone else explain it to you. I tried as hard as could, seriously. Would anyone be generous enough to explain it to him?

                    I am in no way a Margarito fan. Im just going by what is fair and what isn't.



                    All speculation. I dont put it pass him that he might have used it. However we cant say he did and just completely try to remove him from boxing. That is why we have the US judicial system. Innocent till proven guilty. So another witch hunt of Salem doesn't happen again.

                    We can also assume that Cotto just has problems with tall, weird-sluggers, with great chins. It was his first loss and who else has he fought that is similar to Margarito?



                    I agree with you. Its bad that he even attempted it but its not worth banning him for. If he actually used it, and we have proof of him using it against people in the past. Then im all for his ban but we dont so banning him is excessive.
                    yea but this isnt a court this is a forum for public opinion all of that innocent till proven giulty is used in a court of law this is a public forum for public oppinions we dont have to use the us judicial system here. In the eyes of the people he is guilty thats all.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by vaborikua
                      no when tony actually started pressuring him and throwing punches. he wasnt really pressuring him till then.
                      Because the plaster didn’t harden

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