Who was the better fighter in your opinion Calzaghe or Tszyu

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  • tommy boo boxer
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    #141
    Originally posted by deliveryman
    Joe Calzaghe, purely because of his longevity. He also became the lineal LHW champ.






    Oh i get it now... it was a joke

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    • BennyST
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      #142
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      wasn't laporte like his 4th fight or something?

      i know laporte wasn't a natural 140 guy and a bit shopworn but to take on a vet like that when you're barely starting out is very impressive.

      if only 140 was a deeper division.
      Indeed it was Lefty. He took on a champion that most of today's fighters wouldn't fight until they had had at least thirty or so fights. He fought a top former world champion in his fourth fight and then a future world champion (Sammy Fuentes whom he knocked out in one) in his sixth fight.

      The thing is though his resume is littered with top fighters and world champions from nearly his first fight until his last. His second career (after Phillips) was full of the best fighters in what was generally considered at the time to be one of, if not the most, stacked division in boxing. Six undefeated top contenders or champions, many former and future world champions and the top contenders were legit, top fighters who had gotten there by winning big fights.

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #143
        Originally posted by BennyST
        Indeed it was Lefty. He took on a champion that most of today's fighters wouldn't fight until they had had at least thirty or so fights. He fought a top former world champion in his fourth fight and then a future world champion (Sammy Fuentes whom he knocked out in one) in his sixth fight.

        The thing is though his resume is littered with top fighters and world champions from nearly his first fight until his last. His second career (after Phillips) was full of the best fighters in what was generally considered at the time to be one of, if not the most, stacked division in boxing. Six undefeated top contenders or champions, many former and future world champions and the top contenders were legit, top fighters who had gotten there by winning big fights.
        problem with kt's resume is that while he fought a lot of solid fighters and former and current champs......very few were big name guys. if you look at the 140 rankings in the mid to late 90's , that's pretty much kt's resume right there.

        a lot of 135 guys didn't dare go near kostya's 140 belt and kostya was too small for 147 tbh.

        it'd have been nice to see shane or oscar go at it with kostya at 140. would have been great fights.

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        • baracuda
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          #144
          kosta tszyu definitely!calzaghe is overrated,im just not a big fan of his fights!

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          • SHB
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            #145
            The question, long forgotten, was who is the better fighter. Calzaghe was/is the better fighter. You can argue resume and opponents and unbeaten records all you want but that's an entirely different argument. No matter who he fought, how he fought or where he fought Calzaghe always found a way to win even where the chips were down. Kostya, bloody good fighter to watch, couldn't always do that.

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            • Sparked_1985
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              #146
              Calzaghe beats Kostya P4P imo, so that has to mean Calzaghe is the better fighter. Aesthetically Kostya seems the better fighter. He isn't though.

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              • Technical_Skill
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                #147
                Originally posted by SHB
                The question, long forgotten, was who is the better fighter. Calzaghe was/is the better fighter. You can argue resume and opponents and unbeaten records all you want but that's an entirely different argument. No matter who he fought, how he fought or where he fought Calzaghe always found a way to win even where the chips were down. Kostya, bloody good fighter to watch, couldn't always do that.
                Here we go again......

                Just because a fighter is unbeaten doesn't make him better than another fighter.

                Is Mayweather better than Ray Robinson because "When the chips were down he always found a way to win, while ray couldnt"?

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                • SHB
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                  Here we go again......

                  Just because a fighter is unbeaten doesn't make him better than another fighter.

                  And where did I say it did?

                  For those who can only look at things in such simplistic ways, I'll clarify. One is capable of beating a world class opponent by changing their game plan and adjusting to the circumstances. One wasn't. In terms of other attributes, they stack up relatively well - depending on which part of their careers you look.

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by SHB
                    The question, long forgotten, was who is the better fighter. Calzaghe was/is the better fighter. You can argue resume and opponents and unbeaten records all you want but that's an entirely different argument. No matter who he fought, how he fought or where he fought Calzaghe always found a way to win even where the chips were down. Kostya, bloody good fighter to watch, couldn't always do that.
                    lol in the ams or in the pros......kostya's skills were superior.

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                    • SHB
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      lol in the ams or in the pros......kostya's skills were superior.
                      I would disagree but hey it's all about opinions. At least your argument makes sense.

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