Why The Double Standard Between Margarito and Shane "Basketball Head" Mosley?

[poontango]

What double standard?

taking steroids does not increase your likelihood of killing an opponent, it increases the length of time you can train and teh quality of production you get from said training.

Loading your pads is basicly like taking the normal pellets out of your paintball gun and loading them with ball barings.

Sure the steroids would make you run faster and aid you winning the paintball game but ball baring could kill the guys you are plaaying with, I know which I consider more offencive.

Yeah it increases your training time, strength and speed AND by extension allows you a giant advantage over your opponent so you can hit him harder, faster and for a longer amount of time before dropping off. That is a huge advantage.
Its like Popeye vs. Brutus after Popeye eats his spinach. Before he eats it its a fair fight, after he eats it he lights Brutus up. Only instead of spinach, which is legal, you get shot up with some Herculean ****.
I hate to resort to such a crude reference but in this case it applies.

[dondi330]

Well for starters Shane finally admitted he used enhancers and Mosley was subpoenaed in the BALCO investigation and testified before a federal grand jury. Funny thing is this was all before the COTTO VS MOSLEY fight and none of the Margarito nutthuggers were calling for Mosley to be "killed" or "jailed".
So if it was fine then why isn't it fine now, Because he beat the crap out of Margarito? Because he Margarito wasn't "as popular" till after the Cotto fight?
The enhancers he took are now being tested since 2003 so whats the problem now?
Margarito used a weapon against another human being and considering he used it against a fighter he was favored to win its elementary that he would use against fighters he was the underdog against.
If you still think Margarito is an honest man, then tell me how honest his trainer that has been wrapping his hands for over 10 years is. Margarito doesn't even "know " what his trainer did to his wraps....so how do all of the nuthuggers?

[BattlingNelson]

Yeah it increases your training time, strength and speed AND by extension allows you a giant advantage over your opponent so you can hit him harder, faster and for a longer amount of time before dropping off. That is a huge advantage.
Its like Popeye vs. Brutus after Popeye eats his spinach. Before he eats it its a fair fight, after he eats it he lights Brutus up. Only instead of spinach, which is legal, you get shot up with some Herculean ****.
I hate to resort to such a crude reference but in this case it applies.

Indeed it gives an advantage. But if both do it then .........

Think about this: Why didn't DLH press matters further when it became clear (pun intended) that SSM juiced before their fight? Why didn't he say something about moral standards and cheaters? He just said that that fight was behind him.

[poontango]

Well for starters Shane finally admitted he used enhancers and Mosley was subpoenaed in the BALCO investigation and testified before a federal grand jury. Funny thing is this was all before the COTTO VS MOSLEY fight and none of the Margarito nutthuggers were calling for Mosley to be "killed" or "jailed".
So if it was fine then why isn't it fine now, Because he beat the crap out of Margarito? Because he Margarito wasn't "as popular" till after the Cotto fight?
The enhancers he took are now being tested since 2003 so whats the problem now?
Margarito used a weapon against another human being and considering he used it against a fighter he was favored to win its elementary that he would use against fighters he was the underdog against.
If you still think Margarito is an honest man, then tell me how honest his trainer that has been wrapping his hands for over 10 years is. Margarito doesn't even "know " what his trainer did to his wraps....so how do all of he nuthuggers?

It was never fine. And Mosley lied about it before he was forced by power of subpoena to testify. He wasnt exactly as forthright about it as you make it sound. And it has nothing to do with Margarito or Mosley themselves. If you read my original post its about the fans seemingly double standard about the two situations.
I'll say it again. Whether its loading your gloves or taking performance enhancing drugs, the result is the same: An unfair advantage over your opponent. Being twice as strong, fast and conditioned is just as bad as someone with **** in their gloves.
I dont know what Margarito is thinking, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until he comes out and addresses it at length. I wont judge him until I hear what he has to say about it.

[Pullcounter]

Yeah it increases your training time, strength and speed AND by extension allows you a giant advantage over your opponent so you can hit him harder, faster and for a longer amount of time before dropping off. That is a huge advantage.
Its like Popeye vs. Brutus after Popeye eats his spinach. Before he eats it its a fair fight, after he eats it he lights Brutus up. Only instead of spinach, which is legal, you get shot up with some Herculean ****.
I hate to resort to such a crude reference but in this case it applies.

but mosley did better against dlh in the first fight and vargas was a fail on steroids.

[sL0]

Correct on the EPO. I'm am fully aware. That is why its a banned substance. If I may, there are still steroids that are undetectable as well. Sophisticated "dopers" will always be one step ahead I feel. I will retract my statements about EPO not being as serious as steroids, because it can be given the fact that it produces more red blood cells, enabling muscle recuperation on the level of "steroids". Let me present this example if I may. Fernando Vargas Vs De La Hoya. After the fight Vargas tested positive for stanozolol. This is considered a speed and endurance steroid. If Vargas would have used "plaster" instead, I think the advantage of having bricks would've made a bigger difference in the fight. A cheat is a cheat though. Steroids or plaster. The severity I believe is greater with the plaster. I think that Mosley should be punished the same as the other high profile athletes that have been caught using steroids. For the record, as far as Mosley "not knowing", that is BS. He would've noticed the "changes". He's a top athlete that's been training for a long time. He knows his body well enough to notice differences. The same goes for Margarito as well concerning the wraps.

[KILLA RIGHT]

both of them were wrong but what margarito did is still the worst thing u can do in the sport. Roids is bad but loaded gloves is much worse

[sL0]

but mosley did better against dlh in the first fight and vargas was a fail on steroids.

If they used the "right" kinds of steroids, it probably would've made a bigger impact. Vargas was an idiot for using stanozolol. Ben Johnson, the sprinter, was caught using that in 1988. Of course that's going to register on a test, masking or not.

[BattlingNelson]

Correct on the EPO. I'm am fully aware. That is why its a banned substance. If I may, there are still steroids that are undetectable as well. Sophisticated "dopers" will always be one step ahead I feel. I will retract my statements about EPO not being as serious as steroids, because it can be given the fact that it produces more red blood cells, enabling muscle recuperation on the level of "steroids". Let me present this example if I may. Fernando Vargas Vs De La Hoya. After the fight Vargas tested positive for stanozolol. This is considered a speed and endurance steroid. If Vargas would have used "plaster" instead, I think the advantage of having bricks would've made a bigger difference in the fight. A cheat is a cheat though. Steroids or plaster. The severity I believe is greater with the plaster. I think that Mosley should be punished the same as the other high profile athletes that have been caught using steroids. For the record, as far as Mosley "not knowing", that is BS. He would've noticed the "changes". He's a top athlete that's been training for a long time. He knows his body well enough to notice differences. The same goes for Margarito as well concerning the wraps.

Indeed. Of course Mosley knew. Athletes in general and boxers in particular are hysterical about what they put in their body. They would never take any supplement without knowing the full effect of it. Mosley would never take anything he didn't know the effect of. What if the drug made him gain 4 pounds?

He knew for sure.

[poontango]

Indeed. Of course Mosley knew. Athletes in general and boxers in particular are hysterical about what they put in their body. They would never take any supplement without knowing the full effect of it. Mosley would never take anything he didn't know the effect of. What if the drug made him gain 4 pounds?

He knew for sure.

Hey Battling who is that scary lookin' dude on your avatar?