How do you view Cotto's LOSS to Margarito.. now..

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  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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    #41
    Originally posted by tyde13
    i think many ppl overlook that part.....cotto was landing huge shots, and they seemed to have no effect.....margarito kept coming forward, and giving it back. i dont have an argument w/ anyone who believes margarito cheated in that fight, but don't overlook the fact that margarito kept walking through cotto's best ****, and the gloves had nothing to do with that........

    but its a matter of perception, that's why i'd love to see a rematch.
    Wrong Buddy. You get hit with Plaster, you get weaker, meaning you dont punch as hard as you should and by that your opponent can take your shots better, because you are not punching as hard as you do.

    SO yes getting hit with Loded gloves afects your punching power too!!!!!!!!!

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    • Mr. Fantastic
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      #42
      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
      And for me.

      But I hate all this "well, he could off cheated against Cotto, but I have a finger in my butt and I can make a desicion fro my self, I have to wait for other people how to interpret evidence"
      Ignorance is already jumping the gun and assume he's already guilty when there is no proof on Cotto's loss. You stans are just crybabies man. I'm not even crying for what happened to DLH in the 2nd fight with Mosley.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
        Wrong Buddy. You get hit with Plaster, you get weaker, meaning you dont punch as hard as you should and by that your opponent can take your shots better, because you are not punching as hard as you do.

        SO yes getting hit with Loded gloves afects your punching power too!!!!!!!!!
        You act as if Cotto's best defense is against the uppercut....something Margarito likes to do.

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          #44
          Originally posted by chicano79us
          Ignorance is already jumping the gun and assume he's already guilty when there is no proof on Cotto's loss. You stans are just crybabies man. I'm not even crying for what happened to DLH in the 2nd fight with Mosley.
          There is plenty of evidence, that you choose to ignore it, to fit your BS is your problem
          Originally posted by chicano79us
          You act as if Cotto's best defense is against the uppercut....something Margarito likes to do.
          Cotto ate more leather against Torres by far, he got wobbled, hurt and everything else. And his face, didnt look half as bad as in the Magarito fight. And Torres is a bigger puncher than Margarito.

          Nobody said, Cotto had a whitaker type defense. He is bound to get hit. Cottos face went from clean, to billly collins jr twin in 3 rounds.

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          • Sin City
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            #45
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss
            for a year though? and now hes fighting in tijuana?

            It actually infuriates me...

            The Title organizations should not allow him to fight for their title at least
            I think after the mix that makes plaster of paris was found a harsher punishment is soon to follow..
            I think he'll be banned for life next time he presents himself in that courtroom.
            not only did they find plaster of paris but he disobeyed the suspension by fighting in Tijuana.. He'll be lucky if ANY state in the U.S. of A agrees to liscense him.
            He is done, son.. DONE!

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              #46
              Originally posted by chicano79us
              You act as if Cotto's best defense is against the uppercut....something Margarito likes to do.
              like i say, cotto's fans will dismiss the loss, margarito's fans will count it......

              as an objective fan of neither fighter (i was pulling for cotto that night, by the way), i say the loss counts.

              margarito was able to do to cotto (back him up, keep him on his heels, land fluch shots, keep cotto from going to his body) what no other fighter had been able to do.....

              that fight was all about strategy, and cotto had the wrong strategy the night.....like dude posted earlier in this thread, cotto loses 10X out of 10 if he fights w/ that same strategy.......but i welcome everyone's opinions......

              a rematch will be the only way to settle it.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Sin City
                I think after the mix that makes plaster of paris was found a harsher punishment is soon to follow..
                I think he'll be banned for life next time he presents himself in that courtroom.
                not only did they find plaster of paris but he disobeyed the suspension by fighting in Tijuana.. He'll be lucky if ANY state in the U.S. of A agrees to liscense him.
                He is done, son.. DONE!
                So he is due back in court then?

                and he didnt even fight yet?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                  There is plenty of evidence, that you choose to ignore it, to fit your BS is your problem


                  Cotto ate more leather against Torres by far, he got wobbled, hurt and everything else. And his face, didnt look half as bad as in the Magarito fight. And Torres is a bigger puncher than Margarito.

                  Nobody said, Cotto had a whitaker type defense. He is bound to get hit. Cottos face when from clean, to billly collins jr twin in 3 rounds.

                  Just like the steroids, the headbutts, the broken nose, the low blow evidence on how he lost before that??? Ever since Cotto lost, you stans have been making up excuses. Now that Margs has been labeled a cheat, you guys want to use that on why your fighter didn't lose. You guys never got over it, and probably never will.


                  Cotto got more leather in the Margs fight than any other dude, no one has landed more power shots on him ever. Plus Margs is a bigger dude than Torres so he's going to be a lot more effective too.

                  Cotto was getting hit nasty in the face too due to all those body shots Margs was landing on him in the early rounds, but you guys were all excited with the HBO commentary I bet.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by tyde13
                    like i say, cotto's fans will dismiss the loss, margarito's fans will count it......

                    as an objective fan of neither fighter (i was pulling for cotto that night, by the way), i say the loss counts.

                    margarito was able to do to cotto (back him up, keep him on his heels, land fluch shots, keep cotto from going to his body) what no other fighter had been able to do.....

                    that fight was all about strategy, and cotto had the wrong strategy the night.....like dude posted earlier in this thread, cotto loses 10X out of 10 if he fights w/ that same strategy.......but i welcome everyone's opinions......

                    a rematch will be the only way to settle it.

                    But you HAVE to keep in mind... if margs gloves were loaded... the shots he was landing were harder then ever...

                    the body shots and uppercuts were HARDER, MUCH HARDER...

                    and that brings you back to the whole point of this thread...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by tyde13
                      like i say, cotto's fans will dismiss the loss, margarito's fans will count it......

                      as an objective fan of neither fighter (i was pulling for cotto that night, by the way), i say the loss counts.

                      margarito was able to do to cotto (back him up, keep him on his heels, land fluch shots, keep cotto from going to his body) what no other fighter had been able to do.....
                      that fight was all about strategy, and cotto had the wrong strategy the night.....like dude posted earlier in this thread, cotto loses 10X out of 10 if he fights w/ that same strategy.......but i welcome everyone's opinions......

                      a rematch will be the only way to settle it.

                      Man but don't you see, all that comes from having loaded gloves, you can't have it both ways.

                      Dried blood stains, started landing harder shots after the 6th rd and the plaster hardened, etc, etc.

                      I wouldn't re-match that cheating bastard and I if I did, it'll be in about 5 years.

                      *** Marga-cheato

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