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  • #71
    Originally posted by anonymousboxing View Post
    nothing to do with that?!
    In the "if" realm, think of how much more shots Cotto could've taken, and how many more shots Marg would've recieved, you don't think loaded gloves would have ANYTHING to do with a VICTORY!?!?!?!?! Could you toss the possibilty that it would've went to the cards ?
    Stop & think about that more amigo.




    Listen to what you're saying about the cheating scenerio:
    Cotto had the skills to win a decision against someone who was cheating, yet Cotto's strategy was flawed....

    ...and this thread is nonsense?
    having the skills to beat someone, and actually going into the ring and utilizing those skills to get the job done is two different things. if being more skilled and talented determined to outcome to every sporting event, we wouldn't have a such thing as "upsets" would we?

    cotto did have the skills to stick and move all night, i thought. he was quicker, had enough power.....but how many times did cotto get into unnecessary exchanges, or decide to lay on the ropes and take punishment? that falls into the category of NOT using your advantages, but fighting the other man's fight.

    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
    But you HAVE to keep in mind... if margs gloves were loaded... the shots he was landing were harder then ever...

    the body shots and uppercuts were HARDER, MUCH HARDER...

    and that brings you back to the whole point of this thread...
    agreed. the problem is, there's no direct EVIDENCE to say margarito DID use loaded gloves against cotto. my answer to your question was "depending" on who you root for, your perception of the fight will change. that's why i keep screaming "rematch!" i don't support speculation as FACT.

    Originally posted by PRPP View Post
    Man but don't you see, all that comes from having loaded gloves, you can't have it both ways.

    Dried blood stains, started landing harder shots after the 6th rd and the plaster hardened, etc, etc.

    I wouldn't re-match that cheating bastard and I if I did, it'll be in about 5 years.

    *** Marga-cheato
    you're not cotto. one thing about cotto, is dude has balls......he'll want to AVENGE that loss, especially if he thinks somebody cheated to beat him. idk about you, but if i was undefeated, and a dude handed me my first L, and it came out later that he may have possibly cheated, i couldn't wait to get my hands on him......

    cotto says margarito should be banned for life, but when he gets reinstated, if cotto's the warrior i think he is, he'll want to avenge that loss for himself, for boxing, and for PR.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
      For about 6 rounds it sure didnt look that way....
      Sucks that people miss out on body shots and just concentrate on head punches.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by perro View Post
        on july 26th, it appeared to be such a great fight and such a great victory for margarito. A classic. But now, it's just a big question mark.
        cosign.................

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        • #74
          Originally posted by chicano79us View Post
          Don't get me confused with you, dondi, napo, pavlikrules.
          Great comeback.

          You can do better than that, dont be patethic!!!!

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          • #75
            Originally posted by chicano79us View Post
            Sucks that people miss out on body shots and just concentrate on head punches.
            I didnt miss the body shots... but i sure as hell didnt miss the 5-1 head punches cotto had on margarito though...

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            • #76
              Originally posted by chicano79us View Post
              Sucks that people miss out on body shots and just concentrate on head punches.
              right.....also, margarito WON the second round, cotto didn't SWEEP the first 6. also, i think margarito did the damage that would ultimately win him the fight in that second round. that round, he did break cotto's nose, no?

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              • #77
                Originally posted by chicano79us View Post
                Sucks that people miss out on body shots and just concentrate on head punches.
                Nobody's denying that Cotto got hit with shots. Going into the fight I knew Marg would land shots. but those shots make a hell of a difference in the case that his wraps were loaded.

                There's really no way around it. Public perception is a mutha and though I know there's a slim chance of Cotto getting his "0" back, it's still a tainted win evidence or not. Hence why I said earlier sometimes it's better to admit your guilt than to be looked as a cheater throughout your entire career whether if that is completely true or not, because technically..Marg or Capetillo haven't denied any wrong doing in the Cotto fight, they just haven't said anything (which sometimes is a red flag too).

                I do believe though Marg will have snitches very very soon. It comes with the territory.
                Last edited by RL_GMA; 03-30-2009, 02:50 PM.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                  I didnt miss the body shots... but i sure as hell didnt miss the 5-1 head punches cotto had on margarito though...
                  Majority of the rounds were competitive imo.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
                    what i said was, "loaded gloves or not, margarito was able to walk through cotto's punches....." no argument about that.
                    ...and what I'M saying is that Marg seemed to walk through Shane's shots too.
                    Until that caught up with him.

                    Loaded gloves WOULD affect how often Marg was getting hit, NO DOUBT!!!!!

                    What if Cotto wasn't run down with bomb shots? Could he have stood his ground for more points, made it an extra round for a decision?

                    maybe startled Marg, knocked him down once possibly? or out?!

                    Then again, Only a rematch will prove validity to all of our "what if" scenerios on this thread.

                    That'll be enough PROOF for me.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by mangler View Post
                      Is it possible Marg did dirt in that fight? Yea. Is it reasonable to suspect him? Yea. Do we know it for fact? No. Til we do, Cotto got KTFO and that's all there is to it.
                      Ok, I can take that but why glorify it?

                      What makes that such a special victory, because his Mexican and Cotto is Puerto Rican?

                      Because Puerto Rico has kicked Mexican fighters ass more times than they have us?

                      Why glorify it?

                      We all think the guy cheated but can't do anything about, WTF?

                      I can see why your ***** ass's life style is trashy!

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