How do you view Cotto's LOSS to Margarito.. now..

[THE REED]

Majority of the rounds were competitive imo.

of COURSE they were competitive... but Cotto won the 5 of 6 without question

[marvelous1]

cotto got knocked the fu..ck out

[Mr. Fantastic]

of COURSE they were competitive... but Cotto won the 5 of 6 without question

But isn't the domination you guys clearly make it up to be.

Domination is what Mosley did to him, Cotto did nothing close to it.

[Da Hammer]

there's no proof that margarito cheated so nobody except margarito and his team can know if he did or not. its a tough situation for both parties although margarito and his team brought it on themselves so they have no one else to blame! i still count as a win unless margarito confesses or their is a rematch and cotto beats him up so badly that the first loss just screams cheat.

[Da Hammer]

of COURSE they were competitive... but Cotto won the 5 of 6 without question

margarito won the 2nd and 4th rd's IMO.

[FLY TY]

...and what I'M saying is that Marg seemed to walk through Shane's shots too.
Until that caught up with him.

Loaded gloves WOULD affect how often Marg was getting hit, NO DOUBT!!!!!

What if Cotto wasn't run down with bomb shots? Could he have stood his ground for more points, made it an extra round for a decision?

maybe startled Marg, knocked him down once possibly? or out?!

Then again, Only a rematch will prove validity to all of our "what if" scenerios on this thread.

That'll be enough PROOF for me.

partly agree....

if you watch the fight on replay though, you'd notice margarito nodded his head at mosley when mosley landed good shots, as if to say, "that was a nice shot!"

against cotto, there was no acknowledgement whatsoever, margarito just took 'em, and shook 'em off.....

also, against mosley, margarito was JUST eating shots all night. he had little to no success against mosley, until about the 7th round, i think.....so basically margarito was just getting his ass beat for the first 6 rounds.....

against cotto, even though cotto controlled much of the first 6 rounds, margarito had success against him too. cotto was landing shots, BUT margarito was landing hard shots in retalitation, and he broke cotto's nose in the second round.....

its easier to keep fighting, and your adrenaline keeps pumping, when you're able to find success.....when you're basically a punching bag for 6 rounds, its a different story.

another thing is that shane's power was VERY underrated.....he probably hits harder than cotto.....38 KO's in 45 wins.....not to mention mosley was bigger, and more accustomed to the weight......a lot of factors play into it

[RL_GMA]

But isn't the domination you guys clearly make it up to be.

Domination is what Mosley did to him, Cotto did nothing close to it.

He was dominant in different fashion than Mosley. Cotto was landing 3-4 unanswered punches on Margarito. Cotto was boxing him but at the same time still landing sick shots. He clearly won the first 5 out of 6 rounds and 2 rounds there after. Both Cotto and Mosley fought Marg differently, Mosley was more aggressive and that seemed to be the very telling as the fight went on.

But Cotto indeed was putting on a Boxing clinic, there's no denying that.

[Mr. Fantastic]

He was dominant in different fashion than Mosley. Cotto was landing 3-4 unanswered punches on Margarito. Cotto was boxing him but at the same time still landing sick shots. He clearly won the first 5 out of 6 rounds and 2 rounds there after. Both Cotto and Mosley fought Marg differently, Mosley was more aggressive and that seemed to be the very telling as the fight went on.

But Cotto indeed was putting on a Boxing clinic, there's no denying that.

LMAO@ boxing clinic. Dude the 6th round could of gone either way, if you want to talk about clinic, its what Margs put on him in the 7th & 11th Round.

This was no way a different form of domination lol.

[FLY TY]

He was dominant in different fashion than Mosley. Cotto was landing 3-4 unanswered punches on Margarito. Cotto was boxing him but at the same time still landing sick shots. He clearly won the first 5 out of 6 rounds and 2 rounds there after. Both Cotto and Mosley fought Marg differently, Mosley was more aggressive and that seemed to be the very telling as the fight went on.

But Cotto indeed was putting on a Boxing clinic, there's no denying that.

that's the difference....cotto was putting on a boxing clinic, mosley put on an ass-whooping clinic..

[anonymousboxing]

having the skills to beat someone, and actually going into the ring and utilizing those skills to get the job done is two different things. if being more skilled and talented determined to outcome to every sporting event, we wouldn't have a such thing as "upsets" would we?

I don't think we're in disagreement here.
The question still stands though. What did it take for that upset?
If it was fair, we'll see a repeat in their rematch.

cotto did have the skills to stick and move all night, i thought. he was quicker, had enough power.....but how many times did cotto get into unnecessary exchanges, or decide to lay on the ropes and take punishment? that falls into the category of NOT using your advantages, but fighting the other man's fight.

Well, if you go back and watch ALL of Cotto's career, you'll see he won ALOT of his fights by walking backwards. But against Marg it was at a MUCH faster backwards walk pace.
It was cause alot of those blows WERE more than stinging.
His legs gave out, Cotto said it himself.

Was Marg dictating the fight? Yea, but to a certain degree though. It was a faster paced version than Miguel ever fought. He usually takes a shot to deliver his signature left hook. In this case, he didn't want to take that INITIAL shot.