Racial Genetics in boxing

[βetamax]

No race is more athletic than any other.

Black people do on average have PROPORTIONATELY LONGER ARMS AND LEGS and that gives them advantage in certain sports that involve running and reach (basketball). You're wrong about the Olympics, by far the greatest number of medals were won by white and Asian athletes - do some research.

Whites, Hispanics and Asians are doing well in boxing right now, although having proportionately longer reach has always given blacks an advantage in this sport. Floyd Mayweather's arms were 6" longer than Ricky Hatton's, 26" to 20". Tommy Hearns had a 12" reach advantage over Roberto Duran.

I'd like to see where your getting your facts from concerning arm and leg length. I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long time.

I love that your newest attack against black athletes is "reach advantage" in an effort to downplay skill and athletic ability. Your racist garbage never ceases to amaze me.

Anyway...

In my opinion success of black athletes comes down to socio-economical factors as well as genetic diversity. Humans originated from Africa and since this is the oldest population in the world this also means it's the most genetically diverse. You'll likely find some of the shortest, tallest, etc. people of African descent. Which is turn means you would expect to find outliers in terms of athletic ability.

There's an interesting article written by Malcolm Gladwell on this subject that I read years ago. Link below if anyone is interested:

http://www.gladwell.com/1997/1997_05_19_a_sports.htm

[The Hammer]

So once again, the very obsessive mt102879 answers my post. Half of this guys post are replies to mine!

FYI: The arm length of Mayweather and Hatton were given just before the fight on the HBO broadcast - Hatton 20", Floyd 26".

The 12" reach advantage Hearns had over Duran is on Boxrec: 78" to 66". Hearns was also at least 6" taller.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...=303&cat=boxer

Mt102879, you never complain about Atlas and others going on about the height and (nonexistant) reach advantage the Klitschkos have, why is that? Double standards?

You are truly, deeply racist mt102879 (I noticed your thinly veiled comment on superior "genetic diversity" of black people). Although you try to hide it, your hatred for white people comes across very clearly in your posts.

[βetamax]

So once again, the very obsessive mt102879 answers my post. Half of this guys post are replies to mine!

FYI: The arm length of Mayweather and Hatton were given just before the fight on the HBO broadcast - Hatton 20", Floyd 26".

The 12" reach advantage Hearns had over Duran is on Boxrec: 78" to 66". Hearns was also at least 6" taller.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...=303&cat=boxer

Mt102879, you never complain about Atlas and others going on about the height and (nonexistant) reach advantage the Klitschkos have, why is that? Double standards?

You are truly, deeply racist mt102879 (I noticed your thinly veiled comment on superior "genetic diversity" of black people). Although you try to hide it, your hatred for white people comes across very clearly in your posts.

Is this your proof that black people have proportionally longer arms and legs?

I never said that height and reach advantage don't exist. Generally there's nothing wrong with pointing it out but it's just part of the equation. You however want to bring it to the top to downplay everything else when it comes to black athletes.

My thinly veiled comment about "genetic diversity"? LOL

It's a FACT.

From the article I posted.
"I would say, without a doubt, that in almost any single African population-a tribe or however you want to define it-there is more genetic variation than in all the rest of the world put together," -Kenneth Kidd, Yale Med.

[leppard365]

Blacks have big d*cks.

[QUISQUEYA]

no such thing as racial genetics, only human genetics and how being part of a certain family(lets say a long line of athletes like your fathers an athelete, your mothers an athelete and both their parents were athletes etc) will effect how your genetics are put together and how they've adapted to situations in the past

Genetics vary along ethnic lines, not along "racial" lines.

For example, ethnic groups from both East and West Africa are considered "black". But Eat Africans have the genetics to be distance runners, whereas West Africans have the genetics for sprinting and power (explosive) sports.

There are definite physical advantages among certain groups as it relates to certain sports.

[them_apples]

Is there any benifit or hinderince from being Black, White, Samoan, Mexican, Asian ect?

ie - White guys cut bad, Samoans have bigger bone structures and take a punch better?

Just curious what the general feel is here

NO RACISIM

Samoans are generally stocky and could have trouble making weight, if not at HW. Probably = big punchers

Blacks have good genetics in terms of endurance, speed and power.

Asians tend to get the speed, and sometimes have a lot of heart and durability

Whites cut easy, but they can have different strengths it depends - whites don't have a global advantage that we see in all whites. some are fast, some are slow, some punch hard..some are weak.

Peurto ricans got some pop

Mexicans are tough with stamina and punching power.

just a few traits i notice.

If i had to pick who had the most genetically gifted fighters, I'd have to go with Blacks, although many blacks suck at boxing - so don't every kid who's black go thinking he's made for boxing.

Boxing is mostly mental to, so genetics won't matter so much.

[The Hammer]

Blacks have big d*cks.

Perhaps some do, but the ones I've seen are smaller than mine.

[QUISQUEYA]

Perhaps some do, but the ones I've ****** are smaller than mine.

Canada Joe,

What do you mean?

[βetamax]

Now you've clearly revealed what I've said all along, that you belive blacks are a superior race. You quote some crackpot to back up your racist beliefs.

You remind me of Hitler. He used to quote crackpot "scientists" to back up his irrational beliefs on racial superiority.

This is why you fit the definition of a racist, and I do not. Although I support white fighters and you support black ones, I do not believe any race is superior to any other. I believe, as the great Canadian geneticist David Suzuki says, there is TEN TIMES as much variation between individuals within races, as there is between races. This proves racism, the belief that one race is superior to another, is not supported by science.

Give up your racism, mt102879! People need to get along with one another, and your claims of blacks being "athletically superior" just creates animosity.

Crackpot scientist? OMG, this is too funny.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Yale crackpot himself:
http://www.med.yale.edu/genetics/fac/KennethKidd.php

I'm still waiting for evidence about the arm and leg length of black people. When do you think you'll have that for me?

[βetamax]

BTW, I'm not saying one race is superior to another. I'm just saying that there is a greater chance of a black athlete being really fast, for example, than that of a white athlete because there is greater genetic diversity. This isn't too say that a white athlete couldn't some day be the fastest man alive. Because of the greater diversity I would also expect some of the worst athletes in the world to be black. Whites on the other hand would likely be clustered more toward the center of the spectrum and not produce as many outliers simply because of less genetic variation.

Also, since a Yale geneticist is apparently a crockpot (based on???) here's a couple other articles from credible science research institutes that support what he's saying:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/21/AR2008022102739.html

All three studies support the idea that modern human beings left East Africa, walked into Central Asia and then fanned out east and west to people the entire planet. The studies also confirm earlier research showing that as a group, Africans have more diverse genes than people of other continents. But the new research further shows that genetic diversity declines steadily the farther one's ancestors traveled from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, which is roughly the site of the exit turnstile for the "out-of-Africa" migration.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080220161704.htm

Human genetic diversity decreases as distance from Africa—the cradle of humanity—increases. People of African descent are more genetically diverse than Middle Easterners, who are more diverse than Asians and Europeans. Native Americans possess the least-diverse genomes. As a result, searching for disease-causing genes should require the fewest number of genetic markers among Native Americans and the greatest number of markers among Africans.

Finally, just so your aware, this does not conflict at all with what Suzuki mentioned and he's right as far as I know.