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  • Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
    Such terms as "ducking" should not be used without actual facts to back those accusations up.

    Even Goossen, Williams' promoter, stated that the fight against Cotto would happen IF both men were to stay undefeated for the rest of the year. The problem is they didn't, and that is that.

    No "ducking" was going on.

    We both know this my friend. But facts and logic refuse to penetrate the thickest of skulls.

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    • Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
      Way to say something relevant.
      It's a fact. Cotto does want Pacquiao. Williams does not want Pacquiao, He wants Cotto/Mosley. I'm stating facts.

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      • Originally posted by kev183 View Post
        It's a fact. Cotto does want Pacquiao. Williams does not want Pacquiao, He wants Cotto/Mosley. I'm stating facts.
        Yea he doesn't wanna waste his time because he knows Pac would never fight him. Reason being, no one gives a **** about Paul Williams.

        Look, I don't condone the real WW's fighting Pac. But the fact of the matter is, he brings a **** ton of money. And this is after all a business....

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        • Originally posted by Malcolm. View Post
          Yes, since it was mandatory
          And since it was a mandatory there is no chance this fight was in the works around the time Cotto was fighting Shane or very shortly after? And if it was a mandatory set along this timeline, do you not see a schedueling conflict?

          Just face it, your wrong. My timeline and TheManchines facts and research prove this.

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          • Originally posted by Malcolm. View Post
            Name me Clottey best win at WW??
            Is it his win over Judah or his loss to Margartio.

            By your logic BoxRec shouldn't rank him #4 if he's so "unworthy".

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            • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              And since it was a mandatory there is no chance this fight was in the works around the time Cotto was fighting Shane or very shortly after? And if it was a mandatory set along this timeline, do you not see a schedueling conflict?

              Just face it, your wrong. My timeline and TheManchines facts and research prove this.
              Williams knew Carlos Q was mandatory. He had the fight planned if Cotto had said no. Which he did.

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              • Originally posted by Malcolm. View Post
                Williams knew Carlos Q was mandatory. He had the fight planned if Cotto had said no. Which he did.
                Of course he did.

                At that time, who gave a **** about Paul Williams? Especially when he was trying to get a fight with Floyd or Oscar. You hear and see what you want to hear and see. You're not rational at all.

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                • Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
                  Yea he doesn't wanna waste his time because he knows Pac would never fight him. Reason being, no one gives a **** about Paul Williams.

                  Look, I don't condone the real WW's fighting Pac. But the fact of the matter is, he brings a **** ton of money. And this is after all a business....
                  So what your saying here is cotto is willing to fight pacquiao because all he cares about is money not his legacy

                  but williams didnt mention pacquiao but is willing to fight cotto and mosley, also challenged pavlik and is fighting wright next. what your saying williams is willing to take risks in his career, and not lookin at the money side as witnessed by the 300,000 somethin he got in the margarito fight. when cotto took a risk by fighting margarito he QUIT.

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                  • Originally posted by Xplosivo View Post
                    So what your saying here is cotto is willing to fight pacquiao because all he cares about is money not his legacy

                    but williams didnt mention pacquiao but is willing to fight cotto and mosley, also challenged pavlik and is fighting wright next. what your saying williams is willing to take risks in his career, and not lookin at the money side as witnessed by the 300,000 somethin he got in the margarito fight. when cotto took a risk by fighting margarito he QUIT.
                    They are in two different situations.

                    Cotto is a star. He has the leverage to look for big money fights.

                    Williams is not. He needs to have that fight anybody mentality in order to land that big mega fight.

                    You can bet your ass that if Williams becomes a star, he'll be doing the same ****.

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                    • Originally posted by dans01234 View Post
                      I think Carlos Quintana wants his trilogy anyway, so why doesn't Williams do that and then Cotto can beat him.
                      Why isnt Vernon Forrest fighting a trilogy with Sergio Mora?...Why didnt Lennox Lewis have a trilogy with Hassim Rahman? You cant call for a trilogy when you're trying to down play someone...I dont see you breaking your neck and screaming for any other trilogy...Why just Williams?

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