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  • TheGreatA
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    #111
    Originally posted by Malcolm.
    Williams beat Margarito had a belt. Very high ranking in the WW. Cotto didn’t fight him then, what makes you think he would have fought him had he beaten Carlos Q??
    It's not like Cotto was fighting bums at the time (aside from Gomez which was months after Williams lost to Quintana). He fought Mosley, Williams fought Quintana. Cotto won, Williams lost. Unfortunate situation but that's how it turned out.

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    • anonymousboxing
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      #112
      Originally posted by kev183
      Well i'm not saying Cotto ducked Williams i'm just trying to figure out why are some Cotto fans trying to make Clottey out to be this new "Goldenboy" Joshua De La Clottey that he brings so much more to the table. Instead of just saying something more simple like, Williams is not a welter anymore. Have to make it so hard and hype up Clottey to be like a number 1 Welter. When Mosley is the current number 1 Welter and brings a *belt and money and a actual fanbase but Cotto decides to go with the money-making De La Clottey.
      Clottey's not a 'goldenboy' draw. In fact, he's not much of draw at all which is probably why Clottey/Williams didn't happen. HBO couldn't meet up the funds for two 'no-draws': http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=16314

      But Clottey IS ranked #4 right under Cotto.
      He's hard as nails with only two losses. That Boldimir loss was a disqualification, and he took all of Marg's BEST shots despite the fact he injured his hand in round 9 of that fight.

      Mosley refuses to fight in Cotto's backyard NY before the PR parade.
      So Cotto's options were Berto, Cintron, and Clottey. He chose the toughest of the 3 opponents.
      That's not good enough for some people. He needs to fight Williams on THEIR schedule, even though he intends on fighting ALL of the best.

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        #113
        Originally posted by Malcolm.
        Why do people bring PBF?? I don’t care about PBF. Move along

        Did I just read that right? No, it can't be...

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        • Rich Loc
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          #114
          Originally posted by TheManchine
          It's not like Cotto was fighting bums at the time. He fought Mosley, Williams fought Quintana. Cotto won, Williams lost. Unfortunate situation but that's how it turned out.
          Wrong again. Get this through you head. Williams had to fight “pay attention here ok”, I repeat Carlos Q because “paying attention” Cotto didn’t want to fight Williams “got it”. Did you get that simplified version?

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          • TheGreatA
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            #115
            Originally posted by Malcolm.
            Wrong again. Get this through you head. Williams had to fight “pay attention here ok”, I repeat Carlos Q because “paying attention” Cotto didn’t want to fight Williams “got it”. Did you get that simplified version?
            Is there any proof of this?

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              #116
              Originally posted by Malcolm.
              Wrong again. Get this through you head. Williams had to fight “pay attention here ok”, I repeat Carlos Q because “paying attention” Cotto didn’t want to fight Williams “got it”. Did you get that simplified version?
              Most likely because Cotto had just become a bonafide stud, and was holding out for a fight with Floyd?

              Or because Arum still had the idea of matching him up with Margarito, his other big time WW? And Cotto said ok....Williams was no one to go out of your way to fight, it just wouldn't make business sense.

              Stop being ******.

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                #117
                Originally posted by TheManchine
                Yes. Williams had to fight Carkos Q to get his attention. But Clottey needs just to beat Judah

                You see how Williams managers were trying to get Cotto match

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                  Most likely because Cotto had just become a bonafide stud, and was holding out for a fight with Floyd?

                  Or because Arum still had the idea of matching him up with Margarito, his other big time WW? And Cotto said ok....Williams was no one to go out of your way to fight, it just wouldn't make business sense.

                  Stop being ******.
                  But Clottey fight makes business sense now does it

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Malcolm.
                    Yet he willing to fight Clottey for the $$$$$$$$$$

                    More lucrative possibility right now outside of Mosley?

                    Yea that's why.

                    Earlier, he had a potential Floyd fight, a potential Oscar fight, and a Margarito fight.

                    Seriously Flawless, as much hate as you get, I know you're not that ******.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Malcolm.
                      But Clottey fight makes business sense now does it
                      Yes, like my post above. Especially when it's one the eve of the PR parade at MSG where he could be fighting you and it would sell the place out.

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