Floyd Mayweather Sr is not a great trainer

[Steak]

yeah ive got wikipedia too

Floyd snr took over once out of prison, and the reason jnr fired him was because he said snr was a control freak, especially his life outside of boxing and wouldn't let him grow up, also he was always too over critical of jnr performances. Considering all of their differences you will never hear floyd say anything but "my daddy is a great trainer"

Roger Mayweather being a better fighter is extremely debatable, did he achieve more? Definitely...Roger was more attacking, and had a punch, which massively hindered snr career, who also did get shot, which ended his career prematurely.

Guzman is a matter of opinion, I thought he improved considerable. Of course he already had the ability but under floyd snr he started fighting more to his strengths and less recklessly. Guzman improved defensively, he was born with good reflexes, but floyd snr improved his guard and overall defense.

first off, I got the first quote from a newspaper article.
second, Sr never 'took over'. Roger was always there training Floyd as well. and Sr's nosiness has to be considered when evaluating him as a trainer. theres a reason why so many fighters end up dropping him.
and actions speak louder than words. Jr says a lot of nice things about his dad, but the fact is that they barely talk, and Jr wants nothing to do with him as a trainer either.

and Roger was a much better fighter than Sr. surely, if Sr was so good he could have at least gotten a few decent wins under his belt. Roger was a two weight class world champ, who had a LOT of good wins over three weight classes. Sr's biggest moment was getting knocked out by Ray Leonard.
Roger had a better jab, a powerful right hand and very solid defence. clearly the overall better fighter.

[ßringer]

Who said they invented the shoulder roll??????

Don't call people twits if you can't name names.

You've been a member here for a month. Use your "search" feature.

Just do a search, here in NSB, on "Philly Shell".

And if I bothered to compile a list of all the twits who post in this forum, it'd be probably 500 people.

[Vasyl’s dad]

You've been a member here for a month. Use your "search" feature.

Just do a search, here in NSB, on "Philly Shell".

And if I bothered to compile a list of all the twits who post in this forum, it'd be probably 500 people.

I'm sure the user is an alt name.

[ßringer]

I'm sure the user is an alt name.

Probably. It seems like there's only like 15 or 25 regulars who post here anymore. The rest are all crappy alts.

[Steak]

You're not confused...just ******.

Sr added 10 years to Oscar's career.


Compare the way Oscar looked trained by Berastain to the way he looked trained by Floyd Sr.

You do realise that was SIX YEARS AGO, right? thats how fighters get old, they AGE.

and Oscar got hit more often with Sr in his corner anyway.

Brrrrtttttt has always been sound advice if you ask me.

Very helpful. Ive always preferred his 'hey, hey, hey..hey! man....bust his ass' line.

Who said they invented the shoulder roll??????

Don't call people twits if you can't name names.

Senior himself has claimed he 'invented' the shoulder roll type of defence, which is just a ludicrous claim, considering its been around since way before his time.

and yes, Ive seen people refer to it as the Philly Shell.

[ßringer]

You do realise that was SIX YEARS AGO, right? thats how fighters get old, they AGE.

and Oscar got hit more often with Sr in his corner anyway.
Very helpful. Ive always preferred his 'hey, hey, hey..hey! man....bust his ass' line.


Senior himself has claimed he 'invented' the shoulder roll type of defence, which is just a ludicrous claim, considering its been around since way before his time.

and yes, Ive seen people refer to it as the Philly Shell.

Thank you very much.

I couldn't be bothered to dig through the NSB cesspool to find and quote specific examples.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Probably. It seems like there's only like 15 or 25 regulars who post here anymore. The rest are all crappy alts.

It would be different if they were funny though,

but they're not.

The last funny one was coincidentally,

El Gallo ****.

[ßringer]

It would be different if they were funny though,

but they're not.

The last funny one was coincidentally,

El Gallo ****.

Yeah, he was a tough one, vato.

Alts used to be so hilarious around here back in the day though, it's almost sad to see the state the board is in nowadays.

It's like I told Samurai, I basically just look for posts by people on my friend's list, or other users whom I know are quality posters, and I skip everything else.

If I actually made use of my ignore list I think I could get at least 300 people on it in my first hour of thought.

[Lone Wolf4486]

I pretty much agree.

I thought that some of the changes he made to DLH's style were for the worse. Seeing him on the ropes trying to shoulder roll against Vargas was cringe-worthy.

The Pacquiao-Hatton fight will be a big test. I think that the fight is winnable for Hatton, but he isn't going to win it on skill. He's not a Guzman or a Floyd Jr, so Mayweather being able to recognise Hatton's strengths and weaknesses enough to take him to victory will be impressive.

At the present time, there is no way he deserves to be considered great IMO.

yea its winnable for Hatton....but for some to say he doesnt know what he is doing is a little disrespectful, the guy has been around the sport for years

[-Swizzy-]

I saw little to no difference in Hatton against Malignaggi, and he actually did better when he went back to his old mauling style.

if you don't see what he did for hatton, then you can't possibly see how good of a trainer he really is.