A Spoiled Floyd Mayweather Jr. Hurt Boxing

[PaiidINFULLent.]

The thing that gets me about people who hate PBF is that...

At the end of the day, Who do you work for? If you were a cashier at a super market, do you scan those items to make those customers happy or to pay your bills? Do you clock in to make your manager happy or do you clock in to take care of your own responsibilities? Im pretty sure you wouldnt give a **** if someone complained about another store having tomatoes on sale for 38 ct a pound while your store had them on sale for 45 ct. And from the customers stand point if you didnt like it then dont shop there.



All of these people who hate floyd for not fighting this guy or getting in a slug fest with this guy are not being real with themselves. He does what he has to do to win, not to make you or me happy. If he didnt want to risk his ability to make money to make us happy nobody can be mad at him for that.Its like being mad at football team because they have a ood defense and rely on it to win games and dont half to score much.Ask yourself this: Would you risk your job to make a customer happy?If you did you would be dumb because if you were fired do you think that customer gives a fucc? Will they pay your bills and feed your kids?


He does what he does to get paid. End of story. You and I would do the same thing in his shoes. You dont like it, dont watch it.

I knew it was some real people on this forum, well written

[Deja_Vous]

He pretty much put himself in that position though.

I understand he wanted to get paid for his talents, he deserves it even though not everyone can be paid like DLH.

But then again, there are lots of fighters who deserve those paydays. But they don't overhype their fights and fail to deliver either.

Oscar failed to deliver in big fights...You conveniently forgot that.

He ****ted on the Tito blockbuster by RUNNING.

He stunk-up the Mayweather fight BY NOT PUNCHING.

[PaiidINFULLent.]

Arum and Cotto didn't want to fight Floyd.

"I fights who my managements tells me to fights" is all Cotto could muster.


It's not Floyd's fault Cotto didn't want any.

I agree, but I'm sure Cotto would of loved to fight Floyd. I believe the blame goes on Bob Arum because he has too much hate for Al Haymon ( for effectively getting Floyd out of Top Rank ) to make the fight happen. Its the same reason we haven't seen Cotto-Williams or Williams-Margarito 2 as well.

[FUC_U_PAYME]

The thing people need to realize is that NO ONE can take away from Floyd's skills and abilities. Only true haters with no knowledge of the sport do, black, white, hispanic etc.

But like Floyd himself said, boxing is a business. Floyd understands that in order for HIM to sell a fight, he has to work hard OUTSIDE of the ring, he has to be obnoxious, he has to make people hate him, he has to claim that the fight is going to be action packed and a slaughter. But this is the thing, he's not doing this for the business of BOXING, he's doing this for the business of Floyd. Whats good for the business of FLoyd isn't necessarily good for the business of Boxing. Like any other business, you need your consumer base to grow, you need your customer to return and pay for your service.

Boxing does not benefit from Floyd generating so much interests from the casual public in one of his fights when he goes in there and does nothing of what he claimed he was going to do.

This is the same with ANY boxer who overhypes an easy or unattractive fight just to sell tickets and goes in there and doesnt entertain the casual fan, doesnt give the casual fan what they expected, what they were TOLD to expect.

At this point, the casual fan feels like they've been scammed. They paid $50 for a fight with no action. How does that help boxing?

Don't get me wrong, Hopkins recently put on a PPV worthy perfomance (IMO) against Pavlik, but the damage had already been done

You can be a master of your craft AND entertain

JMM does it
Shane Mosley does it
Miguel Cotto does it
Chad Dawson does it

Of course, they aren't draws like DLH or Floyd because these guys dont have it in them to act a fool like Floyd does. They also don't have the luxury of fighting other fighters who are HUGE draws (except for Mosley), but they put on the kind of fights that GENERATES interest in the sport, that CREATES fans and thats what boxing needs.

Boxing need to be put back on free tv with top stars fighting each other all the figters you talked about will never never big big superstar like we had with guys from the 20's - 80'.

IMO The main reason why boxing is not as big as it was back then is that boxing was a Sport where the best fought the best because they want to prove to everyone who was the best and it was not about the money. Now that boxing has become a business it mostly money and who can i fight to make the most money. IMo this is what hurting boxing and you can't put all that on PBF because it start change from a sport to a business long before he came to the top.

And the reason why some boxer like floyd make a lot of money is because more than half the fans go to see him lose.

[Deja_Vous]

So you're saying Floyd has taken as many risks as Marvin Hagler did in his career?

Look at this ***** play all dumb.

[Deja_Vous]

I agree, but I'm sure Cotto would of loved to fight Floyd. I believe the blame goes on Bob Arum because he has too much hate for Al Haymon ( for effectively getting Floyd out of Top Rank ) to make the fight happen. Its the same reason we haven't seen Cotto-Williams or Williams-Margarito 2 as well.

Arum is to blame..but they hate Floyd too much to hold Arum accountable.

They can hold Palle accountable for Kessler's ****ty career moves...but not Arum.

[Deja_Vous]

think about this..

Since beating Judah, Floyd when on to fighting

Baldomir (everyone knew it would be an easy win)
DLH (everyone knew it would be an easy win)
Hatton (everyone knew Floyd would win)

And now JMM?

Thats why I asked. The pattern is more than developed. Floyd's pre WW resume is great with good wins against capable fighters, but after that, its pretty obvious that his method of choosing opponents became more than calculated.

If Floyd were to actually challenge himself, fight some good WW's, then fight someone like JMM would be no issue, but with a career ending with fights that aren't challenges or at least the type of fight that GIVE his fans the right to come on this website and post the tripe that they do, I see no point in it.

But thats just my 2 cents. You can spend them however you want.

Stop lying mexican...lol

MANY writers and posters said Hatton was going to smash Floyd's ribs because he was a STRONGER VERSION OF CASTILLO

But soon as Floyd beat him they changed their tune to Hatton was too small.

MANY experts picked Oscar to KO Floyd with that left hook of his.

But soon as Floyd beat him the same mofos said Oscar was too old.

Floyd would have been a FOOL to pick a WBO nobody(Tony) over the UNDESPUTED WW Champion..Baldomir.

[Deja_Vous]

Look, you're very critical of any positive statements made about Mayweather, which is your prerogative. But if you're going to scrutinize every detail about Mayweather's opponents, don't you think it's fair to consider them in the context of what other great fighters have done?

So, for example, you implied that Mayweather has not taken as many risks as Hagler. But can you name bigger riskier fights that Hagler actually took? I seriously doubt that you can because the fact is that Hagler did not fight many great fighters. He spent most of his career fighting B level fighters while waiting for the likes of Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Tommy Hearns to come up in weight and agree to favorable terms for Hagler.

I'd be willing to bet that if Hagler were to fight today, many of the people on this board's views of him would be more in line with their views of Winky Wright. That's just my two cents though. And I'd really appreciate you making an attempt to proving me wrong if you're going to insinuate that I'm wrong rather than just relying on a sarcastic insinuation that you are right without providing any proof that what I'm writing is false.

Damn..you're beating the grease off that mofo.

[Libido Sanchez]

The main point of the article, that US boxing lacks current superstars on the level of the NBA that could be ambassadors for the sport, is a good and legitimate argument, IMO.

However, there are many more things that you can point to that is hurting boxing state side, all of which, at one time or another, have been discussed here and on other sites repeatedly.

Lack of media coverage really hurts. I could be living under a rock and not know who LeBron is, but if I watch a national or local news broadcast (or just turn on ESPN for 5 minutes), chances are I will eventually see a replay of him making an incredible play and be impressed. How often do you see boxing highlights on TV?

Having recognizable names helps, but it's not enough. I've heard of Kimbo Slice, some dude named Shamrock and a Brazilian cat I think with the last name Gracie, but I've only really watched one MMA/UFC/Pride/Whatever event in my life (and I have no idea if it was MMA/UFC/Pride... and why I actually even watched it in the first place). Only hearing the names and seeing the people do interviews and pre-fight hype I don't think is enough.

I would argue that the biggest problem with boxing is PPV. I understand why it exists, but I think it's a big deterrent to the sport's popularity. Imagine having to pay $50 to watch the Super Bowl on TV. Then imagine having to pay $50 to watch a lame-ass pre-season game. Now imagine paying $50 once or twice every couple of months. Boxing has had way too many disappointing PPVs that left people feeling like they were ripped off.

Me, I always have a by-myself meeting before buying any boxing PPV. I ask myself, "What are the odds that this fight is gonna be good (or that it's gonna suck)?" You have to factor in both fighters' potential and past showings. Then I look at the undercard to see if there's any more good match-ups. The casual fan, on the other hand, is basically just going on hype (not to say hardcore fans don't get swayed by hype too).

PPV is a risk. You could conceivably pay $50 for a card that ends up only having 8 minutes of total action if that card had a bunch of early round stoppages. Or you could end up with boring hugging matches. And, as great as First Round KO can be, do you really want to pay $50 to see it live? Maybe. But maybe not.

Also, corruption has long been a factor. The average casual fan has heard of corruption in boxing. Not much has changed in boxing. There's still a lot of funny business going on, mainly ****ty scoring/results. The same way somebody will say that wrestling is fake, they will say boxing is fixed. When a fighter that clearly lost "wins" a fight, I think that drives the casual fans away.

[Deja_Vous]

BAM?

This is my problem with the critics of Floyd.
you guys hold double standards and dont admit it.

1.You say he is boring but yet you only want him to fight bigger guys?
and
2.when floyd trys to fight somebody his size you guys complain floyd would just dominate and it would be gatti all over again ( which was a exciting fight)

3. You say floyd should only fight top ww... but you dont require no other fighters in any other division to just stay in 1 weight class and fight the whole division regardless of the fight opportunities other weight classes offer. and fight.

I didnt see nobody giving BHOP **** for fighting Pavlik or Winky
I didnt see nobody giving Pacquaio **** for leaving a stack lightweight division and not beating all the top lw's in his division before he fights HATTON..

• I mean how title defenses to pacquaio how in 1 division? since being rated in the top 5 p4p??

• How come you guys are not crying that Pacquaio should be fighting Guzman instead of Hatton?
• How come you guys are not crying that Pacquaio should be fighting Nate Campbell instead of Hatton?
• How come you guys are crying pacquaio should be fighting Ali funki. instead of Hatton?

But you ***** If Floyd fights Hatton over Clottey
But you ***** if Floyd fights Hatton over Berto
But you ***** if Floyd fights Hatton over Margarito

You get my point...double standards and people being hypocrites.
iF YOU dont get my point...
So

DAMN...You're whiping the canvas with these hating ****jockies.