A Spoiled Floyd Mayweather Jr. Hurt Boxing

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  • El Dominicano
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    #11
    Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
    I don't think hes really jumping on him for fighting them, I think hes focusing on the fact that Floyd was telling the public in his prefight hype how he was going to destroy them and then when the fight actually takes place,

    plays,

    "tag, you're it".


    Casual fans get turned on by prefight hype, and when they feel lied to and cheated out of their monies,

    they don't return.

    The common line after he beat DLH, "I'll never pay to see that guy fight again".

    and most didn't.
    Yeah but that has alot more to do with Mayweather's size. You can't expect him to hurt or stand up to DLH or Baldy

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #12
      Originally posted by kev183
      Floyd is retired, but he's hurting boxing?
      Step up your reading comprehension.


      It doesn't say hes hurting boxing as of now.

      It says he hurt boxing when he was active.

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      • El Dominicano
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        #13
        Originally posted by 2501 v2.0
        The thing people need to realize is that NO ONE can take away from Floyd's skills and abilities. Only true haters with no knowledge of the sport do, black, white, hispanic etc.

        But like Floyd himself said, boxing is a business. Floyd understands that in order for HIM to sell a fight, he has to work hard OUTSIDE of the ring, he has to be obnoxious, he has to make people hate him, he has to claim that the fight is going to be action packed and a slaughter. But this is the thing, he's not doing this for the business of BOXING, he's doing this for the business of Floyd. Whats good for the business of FLoyd isn't necessarily good for the business of Boxing. Like any other business, you need your consumer base to grow, you need your customer to return and pay for your service.

        Boxing does not benefit from Floyd generating so much interests from the casual public in one of his fights when he goes in there and does nothing of what he claimed he was going to do.

        This is the same with ANY boxer who overhypes an easy or unattractive fight just to sell tickets and goes in there and doesnt entertain the casual fan, doesnt give the casual fan what they expected, what they were TOLD to expect.

        At this point, the casual fan feels like they've been scammed. They paid $50 for a fight with no action. How does that help boxing?

        Don't get me wrong, Hopkins recently put on a PPV worthy perfomance (IMO) against Pavlik, but the damage had already been done

        You can be a master of your craft AND entertain

        JMM does it
        Shane Mosley does it
        Miguel Cotto does it
        Chad Dawson does it

        Of course, they aren't draws like DLH or Floyd because these guys dont have it in them to act a fool like Floyd does. They also don't have the luxury of fighting other fighters who are HUGE draws (except for Mosley), but they put on the kind of fights that GENERATES interest in the sport, that CREATES fans and thats what boxing needs.
        2 out of 39 fights and Floyd is labeled "BORING"

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          #14
          Originally posted by El Dominicano
          Yeah but that has alot more to do with Mayweather's size. You can't expect him to hurt or stand up to DLH or Baldy
          Size has nothing to do with what I'm saying though.


          The public who bought into his prefight tough talk and chatter,


          really thought he was going to do it.

          They wanted to see another Tyson like performance because its what they were being told they were going to get.

          .

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          • 2501 v2.0
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            #15
            Originally posted by El Dominicano
            Yeah but that has alot more to do with Mayweather's size. You can't expect him to hurt or stand up to DLH or Baldy
            You can when you're a casual fan and you're being told by Floyd that he will.

            Put it like this, if you see a commercial for a restaurant that is offering your favorite dish and they claim its the best you'll ever taste, you go, you buy it and you didn't like it, are you going to go to that place again?

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              #16
              Originally posted by El Dominicano
              2 out of 39 fights and Floyd is labeled "BORING"
              2 out of 39 fights is where Floyd had the public in his hand.


              We may not like casual fans, but they do drive the sport seeing as they are the majority.

              Guys like me and you know what to expect from him.


              They don't, which is why they based their decision to tune into him on his prefight hype.

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                #17
                Originally posted by El Dominicano
                2 out of 39 fights and Floyd is labeled "BORING"
                I agree. It's kind of unfair to call him a boring fighter. He got boring when he started fighting guys way bigger than him.

                Mayweather vs. Corralles/Castillo/Gatti/Chavez/Corley/Burton/Hernandez/Manfredy even Judah was entertaining.

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                • Bushbaby
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                  #18
                  Thats why I think boxing isnt dead,because right now u got the Punishers and the Cotto's taking big risks,then u got the Kirklands and the Angulo's,crazy fan freindly prospects just ripping people apart!!Then there's Sugar Shane who just put on a performance of a lifetime,that makes u see,there are still great boxers left,who will play the underdog role and make us remember why were glad to love boxing!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by El Dominicano
                    2 out of 39 fights and Floyd is labeled "BORING"
                    Who's fault is that? Remember what I posted, it doesn't matter what WE think, only what the casual fan thinks.

                    And I agree with you and I'm sure you've read where I've defended Floyd regarding this. I know he's not boring when facing opposition that is similar in stature, but when you oversell a fight and dont produce, people aren't going to be happy. its as simple as that.

                    People buy a Floyd fight to see him lose now. Not to see him fight. And that doesn't grow the sport.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                      2 out of 39 fights is where Floyd had the public in his hand.


                      We may not like casual fans, but they do drive the sport seeing as they are the majority.

                      Guys like me and you know what to expect from him.


                      They don't, which is why they based their decision to tune into him on his prefight hype.
                      Hmmm, also a good point. It's just such a tough position to be put in for Floyd. He has to fight more defensive going up in weight like that, but you're totally right; him at higher weight gets more exposure.

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