Why does Floyd get the blame for the Cotto fight never happening?

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  • Deja_Vous
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    #121
    Originally posted by savorduhflavor
    You see what you want to see. You pick out one thing that supports your argument and dismiss anything against your argument as "untrue". You're a child.
    Accuse me of doing what you are guilty of yourself.

    Classic 5th grade bull****.

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    • savorduhflavor
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      #122
      Originally posted by Deja_Vous
      Yeah right...I'm a Cotto fan..stop embarrasing me.

      LOL

      You damn well Shane hasn't looked good at 147 since Forrest damn-near killed him.

      You know damn well Kellerman asked Cotto about fighting Floyd after the Mosley fight.

      And you know damn well your boy NUTTED-UP.
      And how about all the articles on this site with Cotto talking about Floyd? I guess that doesn't count.

      What did he say on national TV? What he always says, that he'll fight whoever his company puts in front of him. That's what he says, that's the image he carries. Why does he have to call Floyd out for people to believe he wanted to fight him? It's absolutely ridiculous.

      And after Cotto beat Shane and Floyd beat Hatton, that fight would have been huge and would have cemented Floyd's WW legacy. There is no argument against that.

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        #123
        Originally posted by savorduhflavor
        But the thing is, why did he have to? Floyd aint ******, he knows what the best fight would have been. Floyd needs Cotto to call him names and ****? Hell no. Floyd doesn't get rattled like that. He has everything planned, he knew he would never fight Cotto, and that's fine.

        I just hate this Cotto didn't actively pursue. He said he wanted to fight him, he made that clear several times. But because he didn't go further than that it's like "oh clearly he didn't want it because he didn't call Floyd a *****". ****'s ridiculous.

        Cotto wanted to fight. Floyd wasn't hot on it. Floyd didn't duck him, he just didn't feel that it made financial sense at the time, and Cotto is too proud to go chasing him around like JMM is Pac so he said **** it. End of story.
        Good post. The only part I disagree with is the part about Floyd knowing he wasn't going to fight Cotto. I felt for a while Floyd seemed to think that the Cotto fight would happen eventually. The same type of stuff he said about Hatton he said about Cotto when asked about him. Its was like he knew that seed was planted. The situation with Top rank may have not helped but I always got the feeling that Floyd liked talking about Cotto. Your right Cotto did say he would fight Floyd but only when someone brought it up to him. Cotto is a champion and I doubt there is/was anyone at 147lbs that he would say No I won't fight him. I think part of it was his mentality was he didn't need Floyd but I wish he would have pressed the issue. Even just a little.

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        • Deja_Vous
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          #124
          Originally posted by savorduhflavor
          And how about all the articles on this site with Cotto talking about Floyd? I guess that doesn't count.

          What did he say on national TV? What he always says, that he'll fight whoever his company puts in front of him. That's what he says, that's the image he carries. Why does he have to call Floyd out for people to believe he wanted to fight him? It's absolutely ridiculous.

          And after Cotto beat Shane and Floyd beat Hatton, that fight would have been huge and would have cemented Floyd's WW legacy. There is no argument against that.
          That's my point..**** THE ARTICLES!!

          The time was ripe after the Shane fight on HBO with MILLIONS watching to talk about Mayweather.

          Getting all brave in an article and showing courage to those HBO cameras are two different things..

          Cotto didn't want to fight Mayweather.

          He would have been a GOOD win...not a LEGACY building win..because Cotto has NEVER been a great fighter.

          Tony proved that.

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            #125
            Originally posted by mitruth
            Good post. The only part I disagree with is the part about Floyd knowing he wasn't going to fight Cotto. I felt for a while Floyd seemed to think that the Cotto fight would happen eventually. The same type of stuff he said about Hatton he said about Cotto when asked about him. Its was like he knew that seed was planted. The situation with Top rank may have not helped but I always got the feeling that Floyd liked talking about Cotto. Your right Cotto did say he would fight Floyd but only when someone brought it up to him. Cotto is a champion and I doubt there is/was anyone at 147lbs that he would say No I won't fight him. I think part of it was his mentality was he didn't need Floyd but I wish he would have pressed the issue. Even just a little.
            I definitely hear what you're saying, but it's just not in his personality.

            And there is a huge $$$ difference and risk difference in Hatton and Cotto. Floyd was licking his chops at Hatton cause he knew he'd make a ton of money and get another W. With Cotto, it's more of a risk and less money. It's just not a no brainer-business decision like Hatton was. That's why I don't think that you can put that much stock into the pattern that preceded hatton/Floyd into Floyd/Cotto. Two totally different circumstances.

            Hatton opening his mouth isn't what made Floyd take the fight ya know? It was the money and the fact that Floyd knew he'd win.

            Floyd probably knows he'd beat Cotto too, but the money just isn't there. But I agree that if Cotto had beat Margarito, than beat DLH, he'd be the #1 opponent if Floyd did come back.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Deja_Vous
              That's my point..**** THE ARTICLES!!

              The time was ripe after the Shane fight on HBO with MILLIONS watching to talk about Mayweather.

              Getting all brave in an article and showing courage to those HBO cameras are two different things..

              Cotto didn't want to fight Mayweather.

              He would have been a GOOD win...not a LEGACY building win..because Cotto has NEVER been a great fighter.

              Tony proved that.
              So it takes courage to call people out? I see.

              And of course you dismiss articles cause they disprove your point.

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                #127
                Originally posted by Deja_Vous
                If the money was right it would have happened.
                Yup why not??If Floyd or Cotto knows for a fact they going down might as well go down and when either of them get up is ching ching time in the bank!!!!!

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                  I definitely hear what you're saying, but it's just not in his personality.

                  And there is a huge $$$ difference and risk difference in Hatton and Cotto. Floyd was licking his chops at Hatton cause he knew he'd make a ton of money and get another W. With Cotto, it's more of a risk and less money. It's just not a no brainer-business decision like Hatton was. That's why I don't think that you can put that much stock into the pattern that preceded hatton/Floyd into Floyd/Cotto. Two totally different circumstances.

                  Hatton opening his mouth isn't what made Floyd take the fight ya know? It was the money and the fact that Floyd knew he'd win.

                  Floyd probably knows he'd beat Cotto too, but the money just isn't there. But I agree that if Cotto had beat Margarito, than beat DLH, he'd be the #1 opponent if Floyd did come back.
                  Maybe it will happen If Cotto Leaves Arum. I have a feeling Arum would have made Floyd jump through hoops in negotiations. May do the same if Floyd fights Pac. I think Cotto is a star and people underestimate what a Floyd-Cotto PPV would do. It may not quite be Hatton money but it would do well.

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                  • KJB
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                    #129
                    When Cotto was coming off of the back to back wins over Judah and Mosley, and Mayweather had just taken out Hatton, Cotto wanted the fight. Mayweather pulled the whole retirement thing.
                    Cotto was far and away the greatest challenge to him, standing right in front of him prime for a legendary fight. I am not a Mayweather hater, but that pissed me off something awful they didnt get that fight done.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by KJB
                      When Cotto was coming off of the back to back wins over Judah and Mosley, and Mayweather had just taken out Hatton, Cotto wanted the fight. Mayweather pulled the whole retirement thing.
                      Cotto was far and away the greatest challenge to him, standing right in front of him prime for a legendary fight. I am not a Mayweather hater, but that pissed me off something awful they didnt get that fight done.
                      I still say Blame both of em or neither. Cotto may have wanted the fight but he didn't exactly do anything in particular to make it happen.

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