Who has a better Legacy??? Hopkins or Jones

[Chr0nic]

showmanship and fanbase has nothing to do with legacy

does it not? think about what you just said
who makes the choices of who's ranked where?

[THE REED]

does it not? think about what you just said
who makes the choices of who's ranked where?

Boxing Historians like Bert Sugar... who look at resume's.

Not some guy on a website.

[ИATAS]

So Reed tell me, what would the fight look like had it been at 160 (assuming bhop could have made the weight no problem)? Are you implying in the least bit Bhop would NOT have schooled pavlik in a similar fashion or what?

[Chr0nic]

So Reed tell me, what would the fight look like had it been at 160 (assuming bhop could have made the weight no problem)? Are you implying in the least bit Bhop would NOT have schooled pavlik in a similar fashion or what?

i saw that..

[Dan...]

It is pretty close but I would lean towards Roy. He was just absolutely incredible for an entire decade. Won titles from 160 through to HW and beat everyone there was to beat.

[ßringer]

Weight definitely had to do with Pavliks performance... Bernard also did... but so did the weight... I dont care, it did.

How do you think a one dimensional cat like Kelly would do against a 2001-2004 version of Bernard?

[IMDAZED]

How do you think a one dimensional cat like Kelly would do against a 2001-2004 version of Bernard?

Not much different result but the beating would be worse.

[ИATAS]

How do you think a one dimensional cat like Kelly would do against a 2001-2004 version of Bernard?

no question about it bhop finishes him off if he were younger.

[THE REED]

How do you think a one dimensional cat like Kelly would do against a 2001-2004 version of Bernard?

Im not JUST blaming weight on this fight bringer.. .Im not... I saw the fight... I saw the angles, movement and activity Bernard gave Kelly...

But Jermain isnt slow on his feet either... and at 160 lbs... Kellys stayed with Jermain the entire fight..

I realize Bernard and Jermain are different style fighters... but Kelly looked slow, sluggish and flat footed.. and didnt look content to barely throw a jab... Personally... I blame the weight increase... at 166, he wasnt as good at 160.. and at 170.. he was even worse.

I also blame Bernard Hopkins.... for the love.... of all that is sacred.

[S.G.]

Boxing Historians like Bert Sugar... who look at resume's.

Not some guy on a website.

(off topic)

Bert Sugar's top 100 list is pretty terrible, order-wise