Who has a better Legacy??? Hopkins or Jones

[Truth]

LOL. Dude should've done a little research before making the thread.

"I'd like to make a thread discussing Jones and Hopkins. No, I don't know much about their resumes but I can pretend!"

Nah, no disrespect dde but come on, man...

Imdazed make your own thread analyzing this.....I want to see it.

[THE REED]

why because he got schooled by bhop? Listen, pavlik fights the exact same each and every fight! he only looks better when his opponent gets stretched out. He looked exactly the same to me when he fought rubio then he did against Taylor II and Bhop, only difference is he was fighting a corpse that wasn't willing to throw back.

A few pounds in boxing means very, very little and honestly, pavlik is much more natural at LHW (like I mentioned, the plan was for pavlik to move up in weight since he was struggling so badly to make 160). I agree that pavlik is better at 160, but that's because the 160 division sucks.

fighting 10 pounds above your best weight limit IS a big deal.... because then you blow up even more on fight night...

Bernard had a lot to do witht hat victory... but Pavlik looked like a zombie.. he looked slow, and he didnt let anything go... Its as much of the fault of fighting at 170, as it is fighting bernard imo

[Truth]

B-Hop and RJJ is the Yankees vs. Red Sox of boxing...lol

[IMDAZED]

Imdazed make your own thread analyzing this.....I want to see it.

I will, brother. Soon.

[S.G.]

RJJ imo this isn't even worthy of debate, hopkins is one of those fighters who has faced fighters who were always not quite in their right weight division. whenever he did face fighters in the right weight division he lost (RJJ, calzaghe, taylor). the fights with winky, DLh, tito and even pavlik you could argue were against blown up fighters and the fight again tarver was against a dried out weak version of antonio tarver.

RJJ is a legend man he ranks just outside the top 10 bernard arguably doesn't even make the top 50.

wow that's a crazy disparity

you have >40 places between the two?

[Truth]

wow that's a crazy disparity

you have >40 places between the two?

yeah that guy is overboard. bernard has accomplished great things. hes unbelievable...beat a 26 year old top fighter at 43. nuff said. lol

[THE REED]

If its me

I have

#38 - ROY JONES JR
#39 - BERNARD HOPKINS

[Truth]

If its me

I have

#38 - ROY JONES JR
#39 - BERNARD HOPKINS

whats your top 50 look like?

[THE REED]

im not doing a top 50 right now

[ИATAS]

fighting 10 pounds above your best weight limit IS a big deal.... because then you blow up even more on fight night...

Bernard had a lot to do witht hat victory... but Pavlik looked like a zombie.. he looked slow, and he didnt let anything go... Its as much of the fault of fighting at 170, as it is fighting bernard imo

Pavlik always looks like a zombie, he's a very simple robotic whiteboy (lmao j/p!). Seriously though he is extremely simple in the way he fights, he just has a lot of power and comes forward. If you know how to box like bhop it's easy to school guys like that. The 10 pounds was not an issue, that became an excuse only after the loss. Prior to the fight they kept talking about how comfortable Kelly is with the extra weight and like I pointed out two times now he was planning on moving up in weight until bhop derailed those plans.