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  • Mr. Ryan
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    #71
    Originally posted by flipbjefrox
    floyd fought against shamba mitchell in front of 1000 in attendance. that fight was on his hometown. shows how much of a draw he is
    I never understood people trying to claim he was this super box office draw. He's not Sugar Ray Leonard in the marketing department in the slightest.

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    • deliveryman
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      #72
      Originally posted by chicano79us
      Not a household name like DLH but he's known. Put it he's like Pac, he has fans in the U.S. but in his respective country, it tops it by far.
      That's why all 5 of Hatton's fights have been on regular HBO with terrible ratings. The one exception being his (and only PPV) fight with Floyd grossing 900k buys. If he was any sort of a draw, his fight with Malignaggi would of been on PPV. In fact the ratings for the Malignaggi fight were absolutely terrible.

      Manny Pacquiao has headlined multiple (6 by my count) Pay Per Views in the States, please don't even compare the two.

      Next?
      Last edited by deliveryman; 03-19-2009, 09:57 PM.

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        #73
        Originally posted by deliveryman
        That's why all 5 of his fights have been on regular HBO with terrible ratings. The one exception being his fight with Floyd grossing 900k buys. If he was any sort of a draw, his fight with Malignaggi would of been on PPV. In fact the ratings for the Malignaggi fight were absolutely terrible.

        Manny Pacquiao has headlined multiple Pay Per Views in the states, please don't even compare the two.

        Next?
        And how about the gate?? Don't tell me that doesn't come in to play. Margarito sells places out and yet his fight with Mosley was on regular HBO. Marquez and Diaz, both very popular, were on regular HBO too.

        I can see what you're saying but in honesty, Floyd can't do numbers without a dance partner. Floyd vs Baldy did less than 400k. Baldy isn't a star either.

        What were Pac's opponents?? Some of them are great Mexican boxers, that had alot to do with him going to PPV.
        Last edited by Mr. Fantastic; 03-19-2009, 10:02 PM.

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          #74
          Originally posted by chicano79us
          And how about the gate?? Don't tell me that doesn't come in to play. Margarito sells places out and yet his fight with Mosley was on regular HBO. Marquez and Diaz, both very popular, were on regular HBO too.

          I can see what you're saying but in honesty, Floyd can't do numbers without a dance partner. Floyd vs Baldy did less than 400k. Baldy isn't a star either.
          First of all, you're a damn fool if you think Mayweather PPV numbers pre-2007 has any sort of relevance to his draw power today. After his fight with De La Hoya, Dancing With the Stars, WWE, Letterman, Leno, massive media exposure, affiliation with 50 Cent, MTV Cribs, Ludacris Music Video, etc. he is 100x the drawing power than he was in 2006.

          And what about gate? We aren't talking about revenue, we're speaking strictly number of people watching the fight. Besides, 90% of Hatton fans that goto the live event fly over from England. What exactly does this have to do with his appeal in the UNITED STATES?

          I'm glad you used Marquez as an example, if Floyd fights Marquez next, I will be willing to bet every single point I have that the fight does over 750k buys. And you'll probably turn around and say Marquez was the draw.
          Last edited by deliveryman; 03-19-2009, 10:10 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by chicano79us
            And how about the gate?? Don't tell me that doesn't come in to play. Margarito sells places out and yet his fight with Mosley was on regular HBO. Marquez and Diaz, both very popular, were on regular HBO too.

            I can see what you're saying but in honesty, Floyd can't do numbers without a dance partner. Floyd vs Baldy did less than 400k. Baldy isn't a star either.

            What were Pac's opponents?? Some of them are great Mexican boxers, that had alot to do with him going to PPV.
            I wouldn't use the word popular. Well respected and known within the boxing community? Yes.

            Popular enough to warrant a PPV? Apparently not.

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              #76
              Originally posted by deliveryman
              First of all, you're a damn fool if you think Mayweather PPV numbers pre-2007 has any sort of relevance to his draw power today. After his fight with De La Hoya, Dancing With the Stars, WWE, Lederman, Leno, massive media exposure, he is 100x the drawing power than he was in 2006.

              And what about gate? We aren't talking about revenue, we're speaking strictly number of people watching the fight. Besides, 90% of Hatton fans that goto the live event fly over from England. What exactly does this have to do with his appeal in the UNITED STATES?

              I'm glad you used Marquez as an example, if Floyd fights Marquez next, I will be willing to bet every single point I have that the fight does over 750k buys. And you'll probably turn around and say Marquez was the draw.

              How do you even know he's 100x the drawing power?? We won't know till he fights again. lol
              I bet you even if he fights a bum he won't do over 500k!!
              And you think the states is only made up of Americans??

              If Floyd fights Marquez, that's a ***** move and is avoiding real challenges at WW.

              I don't even think it will do 750k with Marquez either. I bet you some points that if he comes back, he won't top 750k.

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                #77
                Originally posted by chicano79us
                How do you even know he's 100x the drawing power?? We won't know till he fights again. lol
                I bet you even if he fights a bum he won't do over 500k!!
                And you think the states is only made up of Americans??

                If Floyd fights Marquez, that's a ***** move and is avoiding real challenges at WW.

                I don't even think it will do 750k with Marquez either. I bet you some points that if he comes back, he won't top 750k.
                You think Mayweather has the same drawing power than he did in 2006?

                Dancing With the Stars, appearances on David Letterman, Jay Leno, Affiliation with 50 Cent, Ludacris music video, MTV Cribs, plus his pound for pound status.

                If we can't agree on that, then there's no point in even arguing with you, because you're clearly delusional.

                No of course the States are not only made up of Americans, but the immigration percentage of Brits living in the states is MINIMAL, and has absolutely no bearing on the discussion at hand.

                Whether you think Mayweather fighting Marquez is a ***** move, is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

                And yes, Mayweather (at this point, for his comeback fight) fighting practically anyone would generate 500k buys. And if the Marquez fight comes off, I will be willing to make that bet with you that it does 750k or over.
                Last edited by deliveryman; 03-19-2009, 10:18 PM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by deliveryman
                  You think Mayweather has the same drawing power than he did in 2006? You're ******.

                  Dancing With the Stars, appearances on David Letterman, Jay Leno, Affiliation with 50 Cent, Ludacris music video, MTV Cribs, plus his pound for pound status.

                  If we can't agree on that, then there's no point in even arguing with you, because you're clearly delusional.
                  None of that matters when you're style isn't exciting to the casual fan by yourself. You're the delusional one thinking he can sell millions of PPVs without a DLH. lol

                  If DLH, who is the biggest draw in boxing, made around 1.2 with Pac in these hard economic days, what makes you think Floyd can do great PPV buys???

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by chicano79us
                    None of that matters when you're style isn't exciting to the casual fan by yourself. You're the delusional one thinking he can sell millions of PPVs without a DLH. lol

                    If DLH, who is the biggest draw in boxing, made around 1.2 with Pac in these hard economic days, what makes you think Floyd can do great PPV buys???
                    Style isn't everything. It's controversy. He's controversial, people hate him, people want to see him lose. Sociology 101 suggests the general public has a fascination with people who play the "villain". The numbers prove it.

                    When it comes to selling fights, the most important factor is the build-up to the fight and the storyline, NOT the fight itself. If you glamorize, hype and make anything seem interesting enough, people will buy it.

                    And yes, I'm taking the economy into consideration. If it wasn't for the economy I'd think he could crack a million easily, depending on who he fought.
                    Last edited by deliveryman; 03-19-2009, 10:24 PM.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by deliveryman
                      **** it, I'm going to bed.

                      You guys are a bunch of downies. (._.) <--- downy face
                      But you are still here!

                      Dude, I think you are being a bit sensitive and over-protective of lil' Floyd?

                      Anyway, goodnight, have a good snooze.



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