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  • Bhopreign
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    #21
    Originally posted by Horus
    it takes 2 fighters to make a mega fight. Not 1.
    De la hoya and Mike tyson are the only exception to the rule.
    and even De la hoya and Mike tyson need a decent name to do numbers.
    Floyd is no Oscar or Tyson I will admit that...

    After those 2 fighters....Floyd is the man


    FUN FACTS TO CONSIDER ABOUT P.P.V's and other fighters...
    compare to Floyd..



    Floyd vs. Hatton = 850,000 Buys= $47 million in pay-per-view revenue.

    The fight was the highest-grossing PPV fight ever that didn't feature a heavyweight or a Oscar De La Hoya.


    GOOGLE ANY OF THESE FIGHTS AND ALL THESE NUMBERS WILL BE THE OFFICAL NUMBERS



    Pacquaio vs. Big Names besides Oscar

    Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
    Pacquiao vs. Morales II- 355,000 buys
    PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
    Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
    Pacquaio vs. MarquezII 400,000 buys

    Roy Jones vs. Big Names

    Roy Jones Jr vs. Felix Trinidad 500,000 PPV = $25 million
    Roy Jones Jr vs. John Ruiz 602,000 PPV = $26.5 million
    Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
    Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver II 382,000 PPV
    Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver III 402,000 PPV

    Felix Trinidad vs. Big Names Besides Oscar:

    Felix Trinidad vs. Roy Jones 500,000 PPV
    Felix Trinidad vs. Winky Wright 510,000 buys
    Felix Trinidad vs. Bernard Hopkins 475,000 buys
    Felix Trinidad vs. Ricardo Mayorga 420,000 buys
    Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas 560,000 buys

    Bernard Hopkins vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar

    Bernard Hopkins vs. Felix Trinidad 475,000 Buys
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor II 410,000 Buys
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys

    Shane Mosley vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar
    Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 Buys
    Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
    Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys

    Miguel Cotto
    Miguel Cotto vs. Shane Mosely 340,000 buys
    Miguel Cotto vs. Zab Judah 220,000 Buys


    THE REAL POINT...




    Floyd fighting a Nobody is almost the equivalent to any fight the 3rd Biggest Name in Boxing (Pacquaio) is fighting in and that is with Big Names



    Floyd vs. No Name Fighter with no U.S exposure (T.V):

    Floyd vs.Carlos Baldomir 325,000 buys = 16.3 Million

    "We're very pleased with Mayweather's PPV performance, especially given that Baldomir had little previous exposure in the US," HBO PPV's Mark Taffet said.

    Baldomir's only previous U.S. exposure came in his January upset of Judah to win the welterweight title and his July knockout of Gatti in his first defense.

    "These numbers are very reflective of the numbers generated by Oscar when he did not have the well-known name challenger in the other corner, which obviously speaks volumes of Floyd's star power," Goossen said.


    Oscar vs. No Names with No U.S Exposure (T.V):

    M.A. Gonzalez(1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
    6 fights in the United States before the fight...

    Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
    This is after Oscar already had 3 Mega Fights over 925,000 P.P.V buys...
    Trinidad, Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley
    This also after Oscar already had 4 fights of P.P.V over 550,000 P.P.V buys
    Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, J.C Chavez II, Shane Mosley,

    So how do you do only 380,000 after all of that exposure in MEGA FIGHTS...?
    And this is Oscar De La Hoya..... So that shows you how much ExposURe in the United States Affect P.P.V sales...












    Floyd fighting a Nobody(Baldomir) is almost the equivalent to and better than


    Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
    Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
    Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
    Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV


    and Floyd fighting a marginal Name Like Judah is bigger than all these fights..


    Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
    PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
    Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
    Morales/Pacquiao III - 350,000 buys
    Morales/Pacquiao II - 355,000 buys
    Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
    Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
    Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
    Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV
    Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys







    And Judah is barely a marginal Name...
    So Floyd vs. Judah = 375,000 buys So you could say that was all Floyd with a Marginal name fighter is better than 2/5 of the most Highest Selling P.P,V EVER not including a HeavyWeight or Oscar..

    And if you Say Judah was superstar before the Mayweather Fight how..??

    Because What exactly makes Judah a superstar or a big name? that was his first PPV and he had done nothing before that to prove he was a major draw.

    There are only a handful of true superstars in the sport. DLH, Trinidad, Hopkins, Jones. Mayweather , and Pacquiao

    Judah is and was nowhere near that level before and After. Would a superstar take $100k to fight Cory Spinks fighting in his own backyard..?





    So lets put things into perspective when talking about Floyd...
    Horus those Hatton numbers are only the U.S. numbers, it did 1.2 mil overseas, so thats another 2 million PPV.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      Not even close.
      Most users ever online was 5,738, 03-14-2009 at 10:07 PM.

      Amir Khan baby

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      • Horus
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        #23
        Originally posted by Bhopreign
        Horus those Hatton numbers are only the U.S. numbers, it did 1.2 mil overseas, so thats another 2 million PPV.
        Bhop you already know...lol

        The Stats and facts is on floyd side with this argument!

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          #24
          Originally posted by Addition
          Most users ever online was 5,738, 03-14-2009 at 10:07 PM.

          Amir Khan baby
          Which means? Nothing at all. Make a thread about Amir and see if it can garner 7,000 clicks in less than 24 hours. It wont do 1/20 of that.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            Which means? Nothing at all. Make a thread about Amir and see if it can garner 7,000 clicks in less than 24 hours. It wont do 1/20 of that.
            Of course it means something. You claim Floyd to be a huge draw yet he hasn't got any of those numbers when he fought.

            Khan's the bigger draw son

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            • MELLY-MEL...
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              #26
              drawing fan's to buy the ppv, or go to the fight is a far cry from hit's on a site loaded with his little ****riders such as yourself! real talk!

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                #27
                Bhopreign are you actually being serious? I actually thought this thread was a joke.

                Being a draw on BS doesn't mean ****.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bhopreign
                  Which means? Nothing at all.
                  It also means forum stats often lie. They are not accurate. I know this first hand, being a forum administrator.



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                  • Horus
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                    #29
                    The fact of the matter is Floyd Mayweather Is the highest grossing Boxer in BEHIND Oscar and Tyson.
                    and the has sold more P.P.V's than any boxing match that didn't feature a heavyweight or a Oscar De La Hoya.
                    FACTS ARE FACTS. cant change facts .


                    like Michael Herron once wrote:

                    When you look pass the money, Mayweather and even the former P4P king Roy Jones are actually truer to pure boxing than most big names in the sport.

                    These two fighters are actually marketed for their skill set,not their personalities.

                    De La Hoya on the other hand, sells his Pay-Per-Views based on personality and charm alone, not boxing ability.

                    Is this why we watch boxing, to see personalities joust or skills clash?

                    When you pay to see Floyd, the expectation is that you will see the best skills in boxing. When you pay to see Oscar, there are no expectations,

                    he could win or lose with no penalty.

                    If Mayweather or Jones lose a fight, they lose everything.

                    They are burdened with having to be perfect. The repercussions of Jones' losses to Tarver and Johnson is the perfect example of why Mayweather knows he can't lose. If he were to be defeated, proponents and detractors in this “unforgiving sport” would attempt to destroy everything he has fought for.


                    Mayweather knowing this STILL moved up 5 weight classes giving up all physical advantages to prove he was great therefore risking everything he has work for .. just to achive greatness...
                    Last edited by Horus; 03-19-2009, 07:01 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      These two fighters are actually marketed for their skill set,not their personalities.
                      Not sure I agree with that. The majority of PPV buys are sold to casual fans who don't know **** about boxing skills.



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