Floyd Mayweather - Return is Rumored For July 11

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Dave Rado
    Undisputed Champion
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Dec 2008
    • 8064
    • 266
    • 453
    • 14,460

    #311
    Originally posted by handler000
    Okay hypothetically speaking lets say Margs gloves was loaded. So not just u but all the Cotto fans would have to believe Darrell Corley, Zab Judah and Ricardo Torres hits harder than Margs with plastered hands... Margs hit him with cleaner shots than all of them and is naturally a heavier man but Cotto was never rocked against him he just ran out of gas. I respect your opinion but I just dont buy it. It just doesnt add up IMHO.
    We know that Marg's hand wraps were illegal, but the tests haven't yet come back to confirm whether it was plaster. In any case, a thin layer of plaster seems to affect a boxer more by accumulation of punches than by dramatically increasing the effect of a single punch. Billy Collins Jr went the distance while taking a severe beating against Resto (and incidentally, the commissioners didn't spot that anything was wrong with Resto's gloves - it was only after the fight that Collins Snr noticed that Resto's gloves felt thinner than normal). And Mpofu actually lost a six-round decision to Dyani despite having plaster in his gloves.

    Cotto isn't known for running out of gas, it was an accumulation of body punches that slowed him down.

    I'm not saying that Marg cheated in that fight, I'm just saying it's not impossible.

    Comment

    • handler000
      Undisputed Champion
      • Mar 2009
      • 1244
      • 30
      • 10
      • 7,332

      #312
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      We know that Marg's hand wraps were illegal, but the tests haven't yet come back to confirm whether it was plaster. In any case, a thin layer of plaster seems to affect a boxer more by accumulation of punches than by dramatically increasing the effect of a single punch. Billy Collins Jr went the distance while taking a severe beating against Resto (and incidentally, the commissioners didn't spot that anything was wrong with Resto's gloves - it was only after the fight that Collins Snr noticed that Resto's gloves felt thinner than normal). And Mpofu actually lost a six-round decision to Dyani despite having plaster in his gloves.

      Cotto isn't known for running out of gas, it was an accumulation of body punches that slowed him down.

      I'm not saying that Marg cheated in that fight, I'm just saying it's not impossible.
      Well according to Cotto in his prefight interview before the Jennings fight he stated his legs got heavy after rd 6. In the Margs fight he was fighting a totally different fight than in any other fight. He was back pedaling alot. Yeah but Im pretty sure it would have had an effect on Cotto because he is not known for having a sturdy chin. I agree with the accumulation of punches help but he was not rocked by Margs he couldnt fight on from sheer exhaustion.

      Comment

      • The Great Shark
        Banned
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Dec 2007
        • 3542
        • 295
        • 466
        • 4,021

        #313
        Originally posted by handler000
        Im sure internet warriors know if Margs gloves was loaded since all of us was there. But I believe Im going to take Cotto's uncle at his word when he said he DIDNT see or feel anything wrong with Margs wraps. Or maybe it was just a conspiracy and his uncle was in on it... Yeah lets run with that one next...
        Source of this?

        Comment

        • Dave Rado
          Undisputed Champion
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Dec 2008
          • 8064
          • 266
          • 453
          • 14,460

          #314
          Originally posted by Plutö
          Source of this?
          Read the rest of the thread ...

          Comment

          • Dave Rado
            Undisputed Champion
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Dec 2008
            • 8064
            • 266
            • 453
            • 14,460

            #315
            Originally posted by handler000
            Well according to Cotto in his prefight interview before the Jennings fight he stated his legs got heavy after rd 6. In the Margs fight he was fighting a totally different fight than in any other fight. He was back pedaling alot. Yeah but Im pretty sure it would have had an effect on Cotto because he is not known for having a sturdy chin. I agree with the accumulation of punches help but he was not rocked by Margs he couldnt fight on from sheer exhaustion.
            I agree that fighting going backwards may have made a big contribution to the exhaustion, but I believe the accumulation of body punches also made a big contribution. And his face looked terribly bruised and beat up by the end.

            Anyway we'll never know, I just don't think it's impossible.

            Comment

            • handler000
              Undisputed Champion
              • Mar 2009
              • 1244
              • 30
              • 10
              • 7,332

              #316
              Originally posted by Dave Rado
              I agree that fighting going backwards may have made a big contribution to the exhaustion, but I believe the accumulation of body punches also made a big contribution. And his face looked terribly bruised and beat up by the end.

              Anyway we'll never know, I just don't think it's impossible.
              I can agree that its not impossible. I just dont like the notion of Margs having loaded gloves as the reason he beat Cotto. Ive have been watching boxing a long time and Cotto loses to Margs everytime if he doesnt learn how to adapt during a fight. His back pedaling didnt work and there was no plan B. Of course I wouldnt say Cotto has no boxing skills; he just is limited in his abilities.

              Comment

              • Dave Rado
                Undisputed Champion
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Dec 2008
                • 8064
                • 266
                • 453
                • 14,460

                #317
                Originally posted by handler000
                I can agree that its not impossible. I just dont like the notion of Margs having loaded gloves as the reason he beat Cotto. Ive have been watching boxing a long time and Cotto loses to Margs everytime if he doesnt learn how to adapt during a fight. His back pedaling didnt work and there was no plan B. Of course I wouldnt say Cotto has no boxing skills; he just is limited in his abilities.
                OK, fair points.

                Comment

                • Xcusemymood
                  Undisputed Champion
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1624
                  • 67
                  • 229
                  • 7,760

                  #318
                  Originally posted by handler000
                  so in the article u posted who did arum refused to do business with?

                  The second piece of evidence was a letter dated august 4, rejecting goossen’s offer. Arum tried to make a fight between williams and pavlik, but the two sides were never able to reach an agreement. More so than the experience from the pavlik negotiations, arum refused to do business with williams’ advisor al haymon.
                  news flash!!!

                  Bob arum ducked pwill too!!!!

                  Comment

                  • B.U.R.N.E.R
                    ~NSB Legend 2005-2015~
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 30197
                    • 1,346
                    • 400
                    • 47,475

                    #319
                    Yall was happy as hell for Floyds comeback and now hes bad for boxing?

                    Comment

                    • check hook
                      Gay Pride
                      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 9361
                      • 379
                      • 137
                      • 16,005

                      #320
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      Yall was happy as hell for Floyds comeback and now hes bad for boxing?



                      haha...you are exposing alot of posters hypocrisy bumping these old threads....I LOVE IT!

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP