Who is the better fighter Whitaker or Mayweather.....

[Dynamite Kid]

I know Pernell was past it and I shouldn't judge him on it but I think his weakness was having the bigger guy outbox him...McGirt, Hurtado looked good on the outside, Pernell had alot of trouble trying to counter McGirft, Hurtado, DLH, Tito and had to resort to infighting...

Again, this is not a prime Whitaker but I believe Whitaker > Floyd toe to toe, although Mayweather is almost overall stronger, while Whitaker had the much stronger legs I believe and...

Mayweather > Whitaker on the outside...I'm just going with what I've seen.

Still I couldn't make a pick, much respect for both

Its all fair criticism i guess.

Props to Whitaker for adapting to McGirt style though. The second fight was won very clearly by Whitaker.


How many KD and point deduction's in the Hurtado fight eh

I cant judge him on the Trinidad fight, because he was too far gone. Props to Tito though. People say he did not know how to adpat, but if you watch the Whitaker fight Trinidad brought the uppercut into play very effectively.

[JAB5239]

Who is the better fighter Whitaker or Mayweather based on achievement ? reason i say based on achievement is, because how else can you judge a fighter? you cant judge him on what you think he was capable of.......... so its a case of what have you done. Not coulda woulda shoulda.

Whitaker for me. Im a big fan though so i might be biased.

I would have love to have seen Mayweather trying to get away from prime Chavez He had enough trouble with Castillo his sparring partner, and a 35 year old DLH.

I voted Whitaker, but its close. Had I read this first I would have voted the first option. Pea fought much better fighters an was always looking to fight the best. Paper titles mean little. Fighting the toughest fighters is the best way to guage greatness.

[El Dominicano]

Its all fair criticism i guess.

Props to Whitaker for adapting to McGirt style though. The second fight was won very clearly by Whitaker.


How many KD and point deduction's in the Hurtado fight eh

I cant judge him on the Trinidad fight, because he was too far gone. Props to Tito though. People say he did not know how to adpat, but if you watch the Whitaker fight Trinidad brought the uppercut into play very effectively.

Wait, when you judge the two and believe Whitaker would win, in your mind at what weight does this fight take place?

[Dynamite Kid]

While, you may be right...keep in mind, Whitaker doesn't have Zab's power nor does he have his speed.

True. However i think the key to the fight is the lefty stance. Its pretty much common knowledge to most people that you have to put pressure on Southpaw's to get any change out of them. This is where the key to the fight lies imo. Mayweather would have to put pressure on Whitaker and be aggressive the way he was in the Corley,Mitchell and the way he was in the Judah fight in the last half of the fight.

I believe this would leave counter punching opportunities for Whitaker, and he would win a UD.

All the aforementioned fighters are Southpaw's and you can see the pattern on how Floyd had to fight to have success against those guys. He had to apply pressure to them.

[El Dominicano]

True. However i think the key to the fight is the lefty stance. Its pretty much common knowledge to most people that you have to put pressure on Southpaw's to get any change out of them. This is where the key to the fight lies imo. Mayweather would have to put pressure on Whitaker and be aggressive the way he was in the Corley,Mitchell and the way he was in the Judah fight in the last half of the fight.

I believe this would leave counter punching opportunities for Whitaker, and he would win a UD.

All the aforementioned fighters are Southpaw's and you can see the pattern on how Floyd had to fight to have success against those guys. He had to apply pressure to them.

Don't put too much thought into that. Mitchell, Corely were gonna get it from the get go, Floyd didn't need to outbox them. Zab was a HUGE problem being as how quick and hard he could punch...Mayweather was very hesitant to punch and **** I don't blame him, Zab has a dangrous left uppercut. Against Whitaker, best believe Floyd will be throwing

Now the problem is...is he gonna go at Whitaker or is he gonna try and outbox him. At 135...this is where Mayweather was even quicker, so we can't erase the possibility of Mayweather beating Pernell to the punch.

[Dynamite Kid]

Don't put too much thought into that. Mitchell, Corely were gonna get it from the get go, Floyd didn't need to outbox them. Zab was a HUGE problem being as how quick and hard he could punch...Mayweather was very hesitant to punch and **** I don't blame him, Zab has a dangrous left uppercut. Against Whitaker, best believe Floyd will be throwing

Now the problem is...is he gonna go at Whitaker or is he gonna try and outbox him. At 135...this is where Mayweather was even quicker, so we can't erase the possibility of Mayweather beating Pernell to the punch.

I dont believe Floyd has any choose, but to bring it. That left handed stance means he would have no choice. I see UD for Pea i really do.

Whitaker is too good of a fighter to get beat to the punch. He would time Mayweather's attacks anyway, if the speed disparity was that big.

[El Dominicano]

I dont believe Floyd has any choose, but to bring it. That left handed stance means he would have no choice. I see UD for Pea i really do.

Whitaker is too good of a fighter to get beat to the punch. He would time Mayweather's attacks anyway, if the speed disparity was that big.

I don't know, I believe that Mayweather will get beaten on the inside and will try to outbox him, where he will find sucess. Pernell's really good workrate could be his downfall, in that Mayweather would probably counter him...or Pernell will lower his output and they'll both try to counter eachother, making it a VERY boring fight

Anyway, it is VERY hard to picture this fight playing out. Picking a winner would depend on how they would approach each other

[Dynamite Kid]

I don't know, I believe that Mayweather will get beaten on the inside and will try to outbox him, where he will find sucess. Pernell's really good workrate could be his downfall, in that Mayweather would probably counter him...or Pernell will lower his output and they'll both try to counter eachother, making it a VERY boring fight

Anyway, it is VERY hard to picture this fight playing out. Picking a winner would depend on how they would approach each other

I dont think Mayweather would be able to peck away at Whitaker and try to outbox Whitaker from range whilst Whitaker is on the backfoot. He does that he gets picked off with counters, and he loses rounds. There is only one way past that lefty stance, and its to apply pressure, but Whitaker has dealt with fighters who throw more activity than Mayweather, and Floyd would be leaving himself open in the process.

I swear Whitaker's left handed stance would make Floyd fight a fight, he does not want to fight. Whether Floyd was looking to beat down on Corley,Mitchell is down to interpretation, but i believe his game plan was to put pressure on from the outset, because Floyd understands its a necessary thing to do when fighting a left hander.


The only way left handers negate their stance is when they jab straight down the middle. Instead of throwing sort of a half hook half jab or when they dont keep their right foot on the outside of the opponents, and lastly when they come foward and throw too much activity. Reason for the last part is, because you are doing your opponents job for him, he wants to put pressure on you to land his punches.......so by you being so aggressive and coming foward you are playing into his hands etc.

[nujabes77]

no one wins, they be both running away from each other and slicking it up