Why is Mayweathers resume so thin compared to other fighters in the last 15 years ?

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  • The Gambler1981
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    #71
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    Whatever. Excuses, excuses.
    Well, I like talking about boxing and giving my opinions on various matters. Whether people listen to them or like them is not up to me, but I believe what I say. I will argue my points, because that is how I see things.


    If you are going to just talk **** atleast try to be entertaining and original. You can do better then this last attempt.

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    • JAB5239
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      #72
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Well, I like talking about boxing and giving my opinions on various matters. Whether people listen to them or like them is not up to me, but I believe what I say. I will argue my points, because that is how I see things.


      If you are going to just talk **** atleast try to be entertaining and original. You can do better then this last attempt.
      Who's talking ****? I asked some specific questions, you didn't answer. Like I said, whatever. Either you can't or you won't answer them. Either way Im finding it amusing.

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #73
        Originally posted by JAB5239
        I would never call a resume the end all when judging a fighter. It is however, in my opinion, the best way to judge a fighters career. You can't determine how skilled one fighter is compared to another without looking and comparing resumes, its impossible to accurately do so with out looking at who said fighters actually fought.

        Mayweather is an undoubtedly a supremely gifted fighter. Is he more gifted than say Pernell Whitaker? Who knows. What we do know is that he didn't beat better fighters. How about Ray Leonard or Duran? It all comes down to who you beat when determining how great you were or were not. Not the end all, but certainly the bottom line.
        WTF are you talking about what question in post 56? There certainly is no specific question~. Be more clear next time.


        I judge fighters by the fighter themself, and the overall knowledge that I posses about them, I like to follow what my eyes and brain tell me.

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          #74
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          Who's talking ****? I asked some specific questions, you didn't answer. Like I said, whatever. Either you can't or you won't answer them. Either way Im finding it amusing.
          Whatever you say~. I have stated my points about your flawed views and you have yet to justify any points.

          Go around thinking you are right, ignorence is bliss~.

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            #75
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            WTF are you talking about what question in post 56? There certainly is no specific question~. Be more clear next time.


            I judge fighters by the fighter themself, and the overall knowledge that I posses about them, I like to follow what my eyes and brain tell me.
            Let me simplify it for you. Is Mayweather more gifted than Whitaker, Duran or Leonard? If so or even close, how do you come to that conclussion without looking at their respective resumes as a measuring stick?

            Its easy to follow what your eyes and brain tell you, but if you do't know about different fighters opposition and how good they were, how can you go about comparing them?

            Clear enough?

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              #76
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              Whatever you say~. I have stated my points about your flawed views and you have yet to justify any points.

              Go around thinking you are right, ignorence is bliss~.

              Obviously you would be the expert in that department, so you'l get no argument from me on that one. You would know.

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                #77
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                Let me simplify it for you. Is Mayweather more gifted than Whitaker, Duran or Leonard? If so or even close, how do you come to that conclussion without looking at their respective resumes as a measuring stick?

                Its easy to follow what your eyes and brain tell you, but if you do't know about different fighters opposition and how good they were, how can you go about comparing them?

                Clear enough?
                Excellent point.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by El Alacrán
                  Oscar de la hoya fought
                  Manny Pacquiao
                  Floyd Mayweather
                  Bernard Hopkins
                  Shane Mosley twice
                  Fernando Vargas
                  Felix Trinidad
                  Ike Quartey

                  Roy Jones Jr fought
                  Joe Calzaghe
                  Felix Trinidad
                  Antonio Tarver Twice
                  Glen Johnson
                  John Ruiz
                  James Toney
                  Bernard Hopkins

                  Bernard Hopkins fought
                  Kelly Pavlik
                  Joe Calzaghe
                  Winky Wright
                  Antonio Tarver
                  Jermain Taylor Twice
                  Oscar De La Hoya
                  Felix Trinidad
                  Glen Johnson
                  Roy Jones Jr

                  Manny Pacquiao fought
                  Oscar De La Hoya
                  Juan Manuel Marquez twice
                  Erik Morales three times
                  Marco Antonio Barrera twice

                  Lennox Lewis fought
                  Vitali Klitschko
                  Mike Tyson
                  David Tua
                  Michael Grant
                  Evander Holyfield twice


                  Floyd Mayweather fought
                  Ricky Hatton
                  Oscar De La Hoya
                  Zab Judah
                  Jose Luis Castillo twice
                  Diego Corrales

                  Mayweather's resume is far more thinner than the other great fighters of the 90s and 2000s i posted
                  now put together everyone's 6 best wins. lets see how mayweather looks with that list.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    Let me simplify it for you. Is Mayweather more gifted than Whitaker, Duran or Leonard? If so or even close, how do you come to that conclussion without looking at their respective resumes as a measuring stick?

                    Its easy to follow what your eyes and brain tell you, but if you do't know about different fighters opposition and how good they were, how can you go about comparing them?

                    Clear enough?
                    That is all intrepretation and subjective.

                    That was the question that you were mad about me not answering, LOL are you kidding me.

                    I would rate Duran and Sugar Ray higher, while Pernell is about the same. Those are ****ty examples because I know all those fights, the true argument for using resume is using truly old fighters where there is no footage or even sound recordings exist. Even then I would still view a resume as an incomplete view, it leads to over rating of old time fighters.

                    Still a resume is a starting point not what truly matters, it is fine to use in part but if that is your main basis I believe it leads to a flawed view.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by andrewcuff
                      Excellent point.
                      HAHAHAHA, are you serious?

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