Who wins at 175lbs HOPKINS OR DAWSON?????

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  • hookoutofhell
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    #21
    initally i thought hopkins could possibly take this one, he is crafty, knows how to neutralize quicker fighters, can take dawsons best punches and has a mastery over southpaws. the one punch that hopkins can land is his right hand, the one punch that dawson is and always has been open to is that counter right hand.

    i see bernard landing his right thorughout the bout ala johnson, bernard is more accurate and a better counter puncher and daswson doesn't adjust like calzaghe so he will get tagged repeatedly. initally i thought bernard would have beat dawson but instead now i see it the other way around especially since hopkins comments about not wanting to beat the next big thing for american boxing (who does he expect to buy into that excuse?). he is imo avoiding a fight with bad chad.

    chad has the workrate, mobility and handspeed to secure a SD over hopkins, it will be a hard fight for him and messy, it would be hard to secure the UD but possibly the SD.

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    • hookoutofhell
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      #22
      Originally posted by -GBGQ-
      Dawson also doesn't come straight to Hopkins. That's where BHop thrives, where he can use his defensivness and craftiness to off-set and befuddle fighters who really only have one gameplan. To come forward. Chad can fight Hopkins in a variety of ways if his first gameplan isn't working.

      Dawson is going to use angles, be in and out before Hop can adjust, and I believe has a harder shot to throw than Calzaghe. Call it what you will but Calzaghe was close to stopping Hopkins based on activity that doesn't move in a straight line.

      Glen Johnson's pressure gives Chad Dawson more problems than Hopkins craftiness.
      not alot of ppl break it down and understand the game so well - green k

      hopkins recently said in an interview that he was thinking of facing admek and that he relished fighters who come straight at you and fight and try and take your head off. i think he knows that a fight with dawson would result in him being on the end of a SD.

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      • boxasmash
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        #23
        dawson is no calzaghe, at lhw hopkins is only 2nd best to him.

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        • slicksouthpaw16
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          #24
          Wow look at these polls results, its a shame. If people can't see that Dawson is much bigger than Taylor, a better boxer, a lot faster, more athletic and a southpaw which would trouble Hopkins even more, then that goes to show how blind some people are. I respect everyone's opinions but come on. There is honestly nothing that Jermain or Joe did that Dawson wouldn't.

          Originally posted by Milkyway12
          I agree with you. But I still see people saying how Bernard is just to crafty for Dawson. Most people think he lost to Glen johnson.
          Hopkins is not Johnson. Greater yes, but style wise Johnson posses way more problems because he is a pressure fighter, Hopkins will try to out box Dawson which normally favors the younger, faster, stronger boxer. Bernard isn't fighting anyone one dimensional here( with all due respect to Kelley). I also like how people choose Hopkins by stoppage, his last KO was when?

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            #25
            Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
            Wow look at these polls results, its a shame. If people can't see that Dawson is much bigger than Taylor, a better boxer, a lot faster, more athletic and a southpaw which would trouble Hopkins even more, then that goes to show how blind some people are. I respect everyone's opinions but come on. There is honestly nothing that Jermain or Joe did that Dawson wouldn't.



            Hopkins is not Johnson. Greater yes, but style wise Johnson posses way more problems because he is a pressure fighter, Hopkins will try to out box Dawson which normally favors the younger, faster, stronger boxer. Bernard isn't fighting anyone one dimensional here( with all due respect to Kelley). I also like how people choose Hopkins by stoppage, his last KO was when?
            he would be to smart for dawson.simple

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              #26
              Originally posted by british_fan
              he would be to smart for dawson.simple
              Hes never too smart for anyone that's bigger than him, versatile and with that kind of hand speed. Why wasn't he too smart for Taylor? Who at the time hadn't fight any high caliber fighters up to that point, had obvious flaws in his game and won the fight mainly with his jab and being strong enough to not be out muscled by Hopkins?

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              • hookoutofhell
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                #27
                Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                Wow look at these polls results, its a shame. If people can't see that Dawson is much bigger than Taylor, a better boxer, a lot faster, more athletic and a southpaw which would trouble Hopkins even more, then that goes to show how blind some people are. I respect everyone's opinions but come on. There is honestly nothing that Jermain or Joe did that Dawson wouldn't.



                Hopkins is not Johnson. Greater yes, but style wise Johnson posses way more problems because he is a pressure fighter, Hopkins will try to out box Dawson which normally favors the younger, faster, stronger boxer. Bernard isn't fighting anyone one dimensional here( with all due respect to Kelley). I also like how people choose Hopkins by stoppage, his last KO was when?
                agree with that - the minute that hopkins said he didn't want no part of dawson i knw that dawson could beat him. botomline if dawson was as one dimensional as pavlik the fight would have already been signed.

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                • Joe2608
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                  #28
                  Dawson is quick, but look how his Glen Johnson fight turned out. Hopkins can win this fight.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                    Hes never too smart for anyone that's bigger than him, versatile and with that kind of hand speed. Why wasn't he too smart for Taylor? Who at the time hadn't fight any high caliber fighters up to that point, had obvious flaws in his game and won the fight mainly with his jab and being strong enough to not be out muscled by Hopkins?
                    both taylor fights could have gone either way IMO.
                    styles make fights,and 2 compare taylor is ridiculous,wot ur saying means pavlik should have smashed hopkins into the ground ye?
                    triangle theories are a load of rubbish

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                    • Pugilistic™
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                      #30
                      It's a fight that can go either way.

                      Hopkins and Dawson are two of my favourite fighters but if these was to happen i would have to root for Hopkins.

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