Is Boxing Dieing ?

[duss]

I do hear that MMA is on it's deathbed in Japan, shame because Pride is the reason I became a big MMA fan. Too bad once that org died so did my enthusiasm for the sport.

yeah pride is dead because ufc bought pride but they just started the dream org and they have had other shows out there, japan will always have mma because the people there understand it and love the sport.

[mrpain81]

u just answered the whole thing boxing only started too do better after mma started booming, because it actually has competition.

and just because it has all these numbers that u spout out its actually mma that is pulling in the bigger ppv numbers.

I just went to UFC 94 with GSP vs BJ penn from beginning to end the whole crowd was going crazy even during the first fight of the night which wasnt even broadcasted and the stands were packed, unlike boxing where it doesnt get full until the main event

And about dela hoya people only show up because he is a big name but he's gone and im pretty sure no one is gonna really care if he fights again.

just accept the fact that only until recently Boxing started to put on somewhat better fights because mma was a big competition for them. I do wann see more great boxing action but this bull**** of paying 50 bucks for maybe 1 good fight is ridiculous and even hbo, showtime, and other networks dont always have good fights so why dish out all the extra money for a good fight every once in a while.

I'll give boxing promoters a little bit of props seeing as there trying to put better fights together within the past two years but more needs to be done, maybe a stacked card every once in a while, when have u ever seen a stacked boxing card um um um i dunno can u guys name any.

Yeah the Arena sure was dead until Kirkland fought Julio this past week, and too bad nobody was able to see John vs Juarez because that was a fun fight to watch.

Funny how you complain about PPVs yet HBO isn't having one till May and the UFC has one every month for $54.95 if you want HD. Your argument is tired and old, if you don't like boxing or the way they run it, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[mrpain81]

yeah pride is dead because ufc bought pride but they just started the dream org and they have had other shows out there, japan will always have mma because the people there understand it and love the sport.

Pride isn't dead because the UFC bought it, and I'm talking about dream getting horrible ratings lately.

[lest26]

dying no, badly organised baddly covered by the press, fighters too picky, promoters bitching, its not helping but it will always survive.

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

I do hear that MMA is on it's deathbed in Japan, shame because Pride is the reason I became a big MMA fan. Too bad once that org died so did my enthusiasm for the sport.

As a sport, no. It's still strong. Broadcasting wise, yeah. A lot of combat sports have been losing they're broadcasting rights and find themselves resorting to cable or satillite, which isn't very big in Japan unless you're a sports or AV fan.

A lot of it has to do with Ishii and Tanegawa getting into MMA and pretty much flunking at it by not really making compeling and competitive matches.

[duss]

Pride isn't dead because the UFC bought it, and I'm talking about dream getting horrible ratings lately.

um actually it is the zuffa company which owns ufc and wec bought pride why dont u go check it for yourself.

and yes dream doesnt have as good ratings as pride had because majority of the star fighters from pride went too ufc, strikeforce, and affliction

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

Pride isn't dead because the UFC bought it, and I'm talking about dream getting horrible ratings lately.

All UFC got with 65 mill was a banner and a couple tapes.

All the rest was either gridlocked or part of Fuji TV.

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

um actually it is the zuffa company which owns ufc and wec bought pride why dont u go check it for yourself.

and yes dream doesnt have as good ratings as pride had because majority of the star fighters from pride went too ufc, strikeforce, and affliction

Or it's because Tanegawa puts on god awful cards and protects fighters instead of actually letting them be competitive.

[mrpain81]

All UFC got with 65 mill was a banner and a couple tapes.

All the rest was either gridlocked or part of Fuji TV.

Yup

In the end Pride ended up ****ing Dana White in the ass pretty good with that deal.

[duss]

Yeah the Arena sure was dead until Kirkland fought Julio this past week, and too bad nobody was able to see John vs Juarez because that was a fun fight to watch.

Funny how you complain about PPVs yet HBO isn't having one till May and the UFC has one every month for $54.95 if you want HD. Your argument is tired and old, if you don't like boxing or the way they run it, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

well lets see there was two fights before that two that didnt even last that long and um also two on the john vs juarez fight not whole lot considering ufc usually puts out 8 fights everytime and usually most of them is exciting, your not getting it you just named fights recently, i just said they past couple of years they have been getting better but still needs work, i love boxing but i dont like the many different belts there needs too be just one so everyone is fighting each other.

But obviously you like watching fights were its uncompetitive like pavlik vs rubio and cotto vs jennings, ortiz killing everbody in the ufc if a guy was running through oppistion the way ortiz is right now, he would have already faced somebody with a big name that would have posed a bigger threat.

but i guess you like seen undefeated fighters staying undefeated because they never take on the best in there weight classes i guess you like pampered record fighters

I love boxing and support it but just trying to get fans to stop backing up a system that enables fighters to duck one another