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  • andrewcuff
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    #41
    Originally posted by larryx
    no he's not..he's damn near the same size as floyd
    He's smaller than Floyd. Roger was quoted once as saying Floyd walks around at about 165. Pacman is definately not that heavy. You've only got to look at him and Cotto in the ring to see the size difference. A left hook to the body from Cotto would likely kill Pacman! He's just waaaaaay too big for him.

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      #42
      Originally posted by RL_GMA
      If you're Cotto or Mosley's promoter and you have a signed contract from Pacquiao knowing a Cotto vs Mosley II is inevitable, you wouldn't have them sign that contract?
      I'm not a promoter.

      Cotto and Mosley need to stop chasing pac. Cotto has to fight Mosley outside of NYC and PR and Mosley must be agreeable with other demands terms.

      if they fight, I dont mind the winner fighting Pac. i just want clarity at 147 now rather than later, because if Pac actually miraculously defeats either, that will **** up the 147 lbs division even more because Pac has no intention to stay at 147.

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        #43
        Originally posted by andrewcuff
        He's smaller than Floyd. Roger was quoted once as saying Floyd walks around at about 165. Pacman is definately not that heavy. You've only got to look at him and Cotto in the ring to see the size difference. A left hook to the body from Cotto would likely kill Pacman! He's just waaaaaay too big for him.
        165???very doubtful...lol

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          #44
          Originally posted by larryx
          no he's not..he's damn near the same size as floyd
          pac is smaller than floyd. pac can make 140 comfortably, but floyd would likely struggle to make 140 now since he's been away from that division for so long.

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            #45
            Originally posted by andrewcuff
            He's smaller than Floyd. Roger was quoted once as saying Floyd walks around at about 165. Pacman is definately not that heavy. You've only got to look at him and Cotto in the ring to see the size difference. A left hook to the body from Cotto would likely kill Pacman! He's just waaaaaay too big for him.
            oh and drew..you know pacman walks around at 160 right

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              #46
              Originally posted by larryx
              165???very doubtful...lol
              Don't quote me on it, but it was ~165 if my memory serves me. Someone posted a link on here the other day.

              Even if it isn't correct, Floyd walks around heavier than Pacman.

              People thought an old De La Hoya would "kill" Manny at 147. Imagine what a prime Cotto and a still very good Mosley could do to him.

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                #47
                Originally posted by larryx
                oh and drew..you know pacman walks around at 160 right
                Nah, Pacman is around 150.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by andrewcuff
                  Nah, Pacman is around 150.
                  i saw a picture of his a leprecaun suit and he was about 160

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    I'm not a promoter.

                    Cotto and Mosley need to stop chasing pac. Cotto has to fight Mosley outside of NYC and PR and Mosley must be agreeable with other demands terms.

                    if they fight, I dont mind the winner fighting Pac. i just want clarity at 147 now rather than later, because if Pac actually miraculously defeats either, that will **** up the 147 lbs division even more because Pac has no intention to stay at 147.
                    Well the good thing at least from what I've been reading is the Cotto vs Clottey fight IS a unification fight, so that takes 1 dude out of the equation leaving Mosley, Berto, and Cotto as champs.

                    But at this point, it's no secret that the ABC belts are minimal compared to big mega fights (at least being in Cotto and Mosley's shoes). For instance, there's 3 WW champs, but who do people look at as THE Welterweight champ? The general consensus tells you it's Mosley on the technicality that he beat Margarito who beat the #1 WW (Cotto). So the division is a little upside down, but we know inevitably we're going to see Mosley vs Cotto II and we already have Clottey vs Cotto on the horizon. Those 2 fights are going to settle 3 of the 4 recognized belts. But would it be so bad if each dude had a big money fight WITHOUT having to fight each other just yet?

                    And I don't believe either Cotto or Mosley are "Chasing" a Pacquiao fight. At this point it's merely speculation, but neither guy has really gone out of their way to call him out heavy, only simply "If the fight's offered, Ill take it". You can't be mad at either dude for taking it. It won't be either guy's last fight (especially Cotto)

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by RL_GMA
                      Well the good thing at least from what I've been reading is the Cotto vs Clottey fight IS a unification fight, so that takes 1 dude out of the equation leaving Mosley, Berto, and Cotto as champs.

                      But at this point, it's no secret that the ABC belts are minimal compared to big mega fights (at least being in Cotto and Mosley's shoes). For instance, there's 3 WW champs, but who do people look at as THE Welterweight champ? The general consensus tells you it's Mosley on the technicality that he beat Margarito who beat the #1 WW (Cotto). So the division is a little upside down, but we know inevitably we're going to see Mosley vs Cotto II and we already have Clottey vs Cotto on the horizon. Those 2 fights are going to settle 3 of the 4 recognized belts. But would it be so bad if each dude had a big money fight WITHOUT having to fight each other just yet?

                      And I don't believe either Cotto or Mosley are "Chasing" a Pacquiao fight. At this point it's merely speculation, but neither guy has really gone out of their way to call him out heavy, only simply "If the fight's offered, Ill take it". You can't be mad at either dude for taking it. It won't be either guy's last fight (especially Cotto)
                      Why is Mosley considered #1 now though. I know he beat Margarito, who in turn beat Cotto, but Mosley has already lost to Cotto.

                      Shouldn't the #1 be left open until some unification matchups, specifically Cotto-Mosley II take place, i.e. like the WW Ring Belt.

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