Barrera vs. Khan: Marco - "I'll End Amir Like Hamed"

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A tremendously talented ****, though. In his early career no one could land a clean punch on him. But by the time of the Barrera fight, he'd already blown his talent. He fell in love with his power and neglected his training and his boxing skills in his last few fights.

But Barrera comparing Hamed with Khan is silly - not only do they have totally different styles, but Hamed is 5'4"; Khan is 5'10".

Dave, I'm sorry man, but I thought he was crap. He was useless against anyone good. Barrera proved that. You don't lose your talent overnight like that. MAB made him look amateur. And man, the Manuel Calvo fight was straight up embarrassing, shouting to the crowd "who gives a **** about the crowd" and "breaking 'em up!", plus adopting a fake American accent when talking to his trainer? Sorry man, the guy is a tool. Anyone can look good sparking out below-average fighters, and that's all he was good at.



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i watched hamedv barrera last night and watched hamed vs kelly before it and naz looked totaly differnt!!!! his body was softa his face looked gornt and pasety ................ prime example of what happens when you start belive your own hype and hire a yes man trainer like stewart !!!!!!!!............... but even that naz only lost by 3 points and wasnt hurt once ..................... the naz trained by ingle wud of beat barrera imo !!!!!!!!!

Hamed wasn't hurt once? Man, I couldn't disagree more. He was hurt multiple times. Watch when Barrera lands a good shot. Hamed crapped himself and often started backpeddling, staying away from Marco until he could recover. All he could do is start pulling faces at Barrera. What a knob jockey.



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[Great Afrikan]

barrera can only beat a washed up hamed like the one in their fight but a prime hamed ko's him.

how can you be washed up with an undefeated record? and wasn't the boxing press saying MAB was shot before the fight?

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Khan is going to destroy this clown.

Timba, I hope you were being sarcastic.



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[big paulie]

Stewart is a great trainer, but he wasn't made Hamed's sole trainer, more of a consultant, and Hamed didn't listen to him anyway. Stewart threatened to quit several times in frustration over Hamed refusing to train properly, or to do any serious sparring. And it was a farcical corner, with different cornermen giving contradictory instructions.

Hamed had already started to decline well before the Kelley fight - Kelley could never have hit Hamed flush before Hamed fell in love with his power and started to neglect his boxing skills.

I agree the pre-decline Hamed would have been a completely different fighter against Barrera, and far more competitive. Whether he'd have won is hard to say, as Barrera is an ATG fighter, but it would certainly have been a very different and much more competitive fight.

I dissagree Hamed was in decline pre Barrera more a case that his competition was stiffer, you say as many people do that we would have seen a very different fight and maybe a different result had a more focused, disciplined Hamed turned up, firstly do you really think Hamed would have come in undertrained and indifferent for Barrera? This was by far Hameds biggest fight. Secondly watch Barrera in that fight, i honestly cant remember him fighting at such a slow and controled pace. So if a much more fired up Hamed had turned up then as we know in the Morales, Mcinney and many other fights Barrera had several gears he could have moved up to, indeed when Barrera did step it up in rounds 10-11 Hamed was in all kinds of bother.

At the end of the day Barrera (at the time) was a good couple of levels above what Hamed had fought before

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Barrera may have had the experience but he's very much a spent force. And if Khan is working with Roach and Pacquiao, he learns about speed and footwork. All this kid's got to do is to tire the old Mexican out. The only way Barrera can win is by using those shameful dirty tactics that already had become his trademark.

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I dissagree Hamed was in decline pre Barrera more a case that his competition was stiffer, you say as many people do that we would have seen a very different fight and maybe a different result had a more focused, disciplined Hamed turned up, firstly do you really think Hamed would have come in undertrained and indifferent for Barrera? This was by far Hameds biggest fight. Secondly watch Barrera in that fight, i honestly cant remember him fighting at such a slow and controled pace. So if a much more fired up Hamed had turned up then as we know in the Morales, Mcinney and many other fights Barrera had several gears he could have moved up to, indeed when Barrera did step it up in rounds 10-11 Hamed was in all kinds of bother.

At the end of the day Barrera (at the time) was a good couple of levels above what Hamed had fought before

You must mean rounds 11 and 12, because Hamed won round 10, if I remember correct. I believe Barrera was taking a round off.

I agree with you, though. Hamed wasn't slipping, that's just a poor excuse. It's just Barrera who made it look that way. These guys are leagues apart in terms of talent. And to think barrera beat him with only boxing basics. It just shows you how ineffective Hamed's unorthodox style really was.



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Barrera may have had the experience but he's very much a spent force. And if Khan is working with Roach and Pacquiao, he learns about speed and footwork. All this kid's got to do is to tire the old Mexican out. The only way Barrera can win is by using those shameful dirty tactics that already had become his trademark.

Barrera's trademark is dirty tactics? WTF?



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[big paulie]

You must mean rounds 11 and 12, because Hamed won round 10, if I remember correct. I believe Barrera was taking a round off.

I agree with you, though. Hamed wasn't slipping, that's just a poor excuse. It's just Barrera who made it look that way. These guys are leagues apart in terms of talent. And to think barrera beat him with only boxing basics. It just shows you how ineffective Hamed's unorthodox style really was.

Rounds 11-12 it was, i really must watch the fight again, i need cheering up.

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Rounds 11-12 it was, i really must watch the fight again, i need cheering up.

Yeah, that should do the trick!

Last time I saw it I was instantly depressed again because I watched the Manuel Calvo fight straight after.



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