46-0-0.....People can hate but who has come close in this generation?

[KiloTeague]

Joe is criticized for fighting "nobodies" but then you call him a "nobody back then" so how was he supposed to make a fight with Jones back then in their "primes"?

What "big name" "prime" fighter's should Calzaghe have fought???

There's nothing Calzaghe can/could do to prove himself to idiots like you, besides lose. It just burns y'all haters that Joe is retiring undefeated with victories over the only other MW-LHW (Hopkins and Jones) of his generation that can claim to be as great as Calzaghe. Learn to deal with it because you can't change history no matter how many hate post y'all make about the great Joe Calzaghe!

Calzaghe > Jones > Hopkins

He could of fought Darius, and Ottke. Two undefeated guys at his weight and a weight higher both in europe. See thats what Jones was doing in the states, going from one class to the next, beating the best at each weight. Calzaghe never even fought the best at the one weight he stayed at which was ottke. Meanwhile Jones beat Hop, Toney, Hill, Griffith-(who beat Toney) and then won a heavy weight Title. Common its very easy for us to of asked Joe to do more without even coming to america.

[KiloTeague]

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Originally Posted by wayno/15ga
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ATG 10 heavyweights


1.jack dempsey
2.jack johnson
3.joe louis
4.gene tunney
5.ali
6.marciano
7.lennox lewis
8.vitali klitchko
9.tyson
10.larry holmes

i know some of u will totally disagree but i think he would be a dominant fighter in any era,he was awesome in his prime and for such a big man what an athlete!!

This is one of the worst poles ive ever seen. I would put Roy Jones Jr above Jack Demsey, gene tunney, and jack Johnson as he was bigger than two of them, and would have beaten all of them. Obviously Tyson kills 175lb Rocky Marciano inside one round. I rank heavyweights by who would beat who in there prime.

Demsey, Tunney shouldn't even make the list since Holyfield, Foreman, and Frasier absoulutey punish humiliate and destroy them and marciano in 4 rounds or less.

[Spray_resistant]

Quote:
Originally Posted by wayno/15ga
Originally Posted by wayno/15ga View Post
ATG 10 heavyweights


1.jack dempsey
2.jack johnson
3.joe louis
4.gene tunney
5.ali
6.marciano
7.lennox lewis
8.vitali klitchko
9.tyson
10.larry holmes

i know some of u will totally disagree but i think he would be a dominant fighter in any era,he was awesome in his prime and for such a big man what an athlete!!

This is one of the worst poles ive ever seen. I would put Roy Jones Jr above Jack Demsey, gene tunney, and jack Johnson as he was bigger than two of them, and would have beaten all of them. Obviously Tyson kills 175lb Rocky Marciano inside one round. I rank heavyweights by who would beat who in there prime.

Demsey, Tunney shouldn't even make the list since Holyfield, Foreman, and Frasier absoulutey punish humiliate and destroy them and marciano in 4 rounds or less.

Agree with all of that, many of those guys are barley Cruiserweights by modern standards so Roy beating them is not as unlikely as some tend to suggest.

[KiloTeague]

I think Hopkins is better then Jones. Calzaghe is not even close to either one of them unless their over 40.

Ummm no way, not only did they fight and Jones beat him easy, Jones went on to win four weight classes including a heavy weight belt while Bernard stayed at 160.

Bernard never could of beaten Roy until after Roy turned 35 years old. I don't call that better.

Roy Has a better resume, more weight classes, a heavy weight title, and beat bernard easy when Bernard was 27 and in the physical prime of his life. After that he only got slower which would of made him easier for Roy to pick apart.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Well that is a blatantly obvious risk, I didn't think I would have to state something like that because as adults we should be aware of this......but on the other points we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

My point is that it's not easy to just win, no matter who you fight. Calzaghe had maintained himself very well, even into his 30's.

Like I said, I wouldn't put him up there as the greatest but definitely one of the best at his weight class.

[Spray_resistant]

My point is that it's not easy to just win, no matter who you fight. Calzaghe had maintained himself very well, even into his 30's.

Like I said, I wouldn't put him up there as the greatest but definitely one of the best at his weight class.

No one said anything about boxing being easy, I know it's a difficult sport. I would rate him as one of the at best SMW/LWH too when speaking exclusively about talent. Accomplishments, now that is another story.

[RightCross94]

lol joe fans got owned in this thread

joe even admitted himself he didnt even know of some of his opponents for his title defences- they hadnt even accomplished enough for him to notice them

thats disgraceful

fact is, joe fought basically no one besides a past prime eubank before he fought lacy, who was pretty limited and overhyped, but still a solid win

then he fought an ok but unproven kessler, got a disputable decision over an old but still crafty and good bernard hopkins, and then beat the crap out of a 39 yo roy jones, who had been KTFO twice, barely threw any punches back, and had no legs

wow. what a career

[Hitman Hodgson]

Calzaghe fans overrate Joe, and Calzaghe haters underrate him. He does have a little bit of a padded record early in his career. But His resume after he won the title is very solid. I think he would be a match for anyone from MW-LHW in the last 30 years (I'm not saying he would beat them all, but he gives them all a good fight). I think he would have probably lost to a prime RJJ, but it would have been closer than some would have you believe. I think he would have beaten I prime Hopkins.

[oc9979]

yori boy campas went 50 plus fight undefeated, julio cesar chavez tito went 40 fight underfeated

[a-raines21]

The haters have no answer to Joe's superb unmatched record, they can prod, criticize, knitpick and say whatever **** they want but the fact remains that Joe is 2 time undisputed champion of the world and undeniably the King of the Supermiddle weights past, present and future.
Ali was the king of the heavyweights and Joe likewise is god of his realm, so that automatically puts him up there with the greats like SRR and Ali.

People hate but they cant fk with Joe, they can't fk with him because hes the best boxer to pair a lace of gloves in the last 40 years. Especially the armchair fat yank critics; they probably piss themselves when they hear the name Joe. lol

Hopkins has lost 5 times and got whooped by Joe Calzaghe himself, no way in hell is he greater.
No worries though because the record stil stands; 46-0-0.

46-0-0
Undisputed champion in 2 weight divisions
Undefeated
Joe Calzaghe Pride of Wales

didnt i already tell you....... roy ones jr 46-1......... that 1 was a dq to montell griffen....