Did Cotto had wrong gameplan for MARGARITO?

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  • {}MATADOR{}
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    #41
    Originally posted by andrewcuff
    Why not? Since Mosley showed what could be done against Margarito, there is nothing preventing Cotto from hittin the gym and gaining pure physical strength.

    How do you think Mosley became that strong? He was benching 300lbs when he fought at 135lb.
    Mosley is a freak of nature. One of the strongest boxers in the game. He also has that Margarito style figured out from all his years sparring with Mexican fighters in Socal. Not saying Cotto can't beat Marg just not as dominantly as Mosley did. Maybe a UD.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
      He had the wrong game plan, before the Cotto-Margarito fight I laid out the same exact plan that Mosley used against Margarito, but the ever wise NSB poster told me that I didnt know ****, that know body could go foward and trade with Margo or fight on the inside with him, even less pushing him back, nor KO him.
      You can check my posts so you can see im not liying.

      He should of do what Mosley did, instead of running around like a dumass all night, he should of stay on the inside and rip margo with body shots, and tie him up.
      Don't you understand? He couldn't do what Mosley did. He's not Shane Mosley. His only choice was to back up and fight for his life. He did good. You should be thankful for that.

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        #43
        Originally posted by andrewcuff
        Why not? Since Mosley showed what could be done against Margarito, there is nothing preventing Cotto from hittin the gym and gaining pure physical strength.

        How do you think Mosley became that strong? He was benching 300lbs when he fought at 135lb.
        Exactlyy, Mosley was a weight lifter since he was a tiny grade 9 student in highschool. He has physical strength, and can move men in chinches much bigger than him see Mayorga and Vargas. Margarito was basically throwing Cotto to the ropes when ever he would charge him, and Mosley would offset Margarito's charges with about 5 hayemakers then actually grab and push Margarito back. I doubt Cotto could gain much brute (not power punch) strength. I believe Margarito's style is just bad for Cotto whereas it is a perfect style for Mosley.

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          #44
          Originally posted by andrewcuff
          I think he will. Cotto might not be saying much publicly about the handwrap scandal, but you can bet privately he is wondering whether Margarito used them in their fight. He will want to avenge that loss, mark my words!

          Anyways, what are your predictions for the Clottey fight, since it looks like its almost finalised?
          I think the first half will be about even, maybe 3-3 or 4-2 Cotto, but after the 6 or 7 Cotto will take over with his bodypunching and boxing ability. I think that Clottey will come out to take Cottos head off, and he will throw lots of punches in that first half. Wich will get him tire faster than he does and then Cotto will ripp his bodyshots, in route to a 116-112 UD or a late TKo, do to the bodypunches. Watch put for Cottos left uppercut in the fight. That will be his money punch against CLottey along with the left hook to the body.you see if Cottos camp fights smart, they will threat Clottey is if he were a southpaw, Cotto will use his lead right instead of the jab to set things up, Cottos jab wont be as efective in this fight, do to Clotteys shell defense. Clotteys best punch will be the right uppercut, because you know how Cotto gets hit with that punch. If for some reason Cotto negates that punches to CLottey it will be a shutout like 118-110 for Cotto. Clotteys right uppercut if what going to keep him in the fight.

          But thats just my view!!!!!!!

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            #45
            Originally posted by {}{}MATADOR{}{}
            Mosley is a freak of nature. One of the strongest boxers in the game. He also has that Margarito style figured out from all his years sparring with Mexican fighters in Socal. Not saying Cotto can't beat Marg just not as dominantly as Mosley did. Maybe a UD.
            Anyone can get stronger. If Cotto puts time and effort into weights, he will get much stronger. Don't forget, Mosley started out at LW as well, so imagine how strong Cotto be...

            The rematch will be interesting, because I can't imagine Margarito coming straight at Cotto again, especially after what Mosley did to him.

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              #46
              Originally posted by andrewcuff
              Why not? Since Mosley showed what could be done against Margarito, there is nothing preventing Cotto from hittin the gym and gaining pure physical strength.

              How do you think Mosley became that strong? He was benching 300lbs when he fought at 135lb.
              I would strongly advise him not too. Mosley is a special case, he's strong naturally. Let Cotto go to the gym, he may get strong, but it more than likely will not help him in a fight with Margarito, unless they were in the UFC. You all are funny.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Perro
                Don't you understand? He couldn't do what Mosley did. He's not Shane Mosley. His only choice was to back up and fight for his life. He did good. You should be thankful for that.
                Dont you understand that you dont have to be shane Mosely to do what he did. Cotto is strong enough to handle Margarito, he didnt have to back that much, and give Margo room to set up his punches. He should off stay at close rage, hit Margo and tie him up, all night in route to a aeasy UD.

                Its not that Cotto cant, is that he didnt because he chose the wrong game plan

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by andrewcuff
                  Anyone can get stronger. If Cotto puts time and effort into weights, he will get much stronger. Don't forget, Mosley started out at LW as well, so imagine how strong Cotto be...

                  The rematch will be interesting, because I can't imagine Margarito coming straight at Cotto again, especially after what Mosley did to him.
                  I get what you are saying, but Mosley has natural strength that overshadows what Cotto has, and Mosley has been working on it since he was a kid, I doubt Cotto would be able to hit the gym for a two month training camp period and become as strong as Mosley.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by andrewcuff
                    Anyone can get stronger. If Cotto puts time and effort into weights, he will get much stronger. Don't forget, Mosley started out at LW as well, so imagine how strong Cotto be...

                    The rematch will be interesting, because I can't imagine Margarito coming straight at Cotto again, especially after what Mosley did to him.
                    You do know that boxers are discouraged from weight training right. Mosley has tendon & ligament strength, look at his body. He's always ripped; that **** is natural, yes he tunes it with weights but it doesn't take away from his boxing ability. He's a special case. I wouldn't advise Cotto to take up weights.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Perro
                      I would strongly advise him not too. Mosley is a special case, he's strong naturally. Let Cotto go to the gym, he may get strong, but it more than likely will not help him in a fight with Margarito, unless they were in the UFC. You all are funny.
                      Why is Mosley "strong naturally"? The guy has lifted weights for years. Thats not the definition of natural strength. 135lb fighters don't walk into a gym and start benching 300lbs "naturally". That's time and effort.

                      Cotto can improve his physical strength, which would help him outmuscling/tying up Margarito in clinches/on the ropes.

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