Ricky Hatton: "I’m Massive at Junior Welterweight"

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    #71
    Hatton isn't any bigger than Manny side by side. Look at the pictures. Either way, he's way way too confident and he's not going to be able to handle the movement unless he cheats like he usually does and tries to wrestle.

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    • Dave Rado
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      #72
      Hi Samurai

      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
      It wasn't supposed to be clever, but you got the point, I'm sure. PS: My dog got stung by a wasp and didn't catch it.
      How about a lion hunting a buffalo as an analogy?

      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
      Yeah. Oddly enough, it's more likely little Pacquiao who will be the one fighting Cotto, not Hatton. I don't buy Hatton's weight excuses.
      I don't think either of them would beat Cotto at Welterweight, and I think both would be favourite to beat him at Jnr. Welterweight. It's all about frame types. Hatton can get down to 140 for the weigh in and still fight at his peak fight weight, and by today's rules that makes him a natural Jnr Welter, although under the old rules it wouldn't. At Welter, he would fight at the same fight night weight as he does now, which would give him less relative power compared with the other Welters. I think Cotto fights at around 160 these days anyway.

      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
      Actually, who is the hardest puncher he's faced, in your opinion?
      Pretty sure it's Tszyu, although I imagine both Collazo and Mayweather also hit harder than Pac does (in actual rather than P4P terms). Maybe even Urango does, as well.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Roger Yomama
        Shall we say 10k my friend? I've got Hatton.
        il take you up on that

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          #74
          Originally posted by braddman
          Hatton isn't any bigger than Manny side by side. Look at the pictures.
          You mean this one?

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            #75
            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            Hi Samurai
            Hi Dave. Nice to see you, my friend.

            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            How about a lion hunting a buffalo as an analogy?
            Yes, that's a good one. Please forgive my bulldog catching a wasp analogy, it was late and I was tired. Had I thought anyone would have paid any attention and criticized it I wouldn't have written it!

            The lion hunting a buffalo analogy is a worthy replacement.

            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            I don't think either of them would beat Cotto at Welterweight, and I think both would be favourite to beat him at Jnr. Welterweight. It's all about frame types. Hatton can get down to 140 for the weigh in and still fight at his peak fight weight, and by today's rules that makes him a natural Jnr Welter, although under the old rules it wouldn't. At Welter, he would fight at the same fight night weight as he does now, which would give him less relative power compared with the other Welters. I think Cotto fights at around 160 these days anyway.
            Agreed. Actually, my point was more to do with Manny being the bigger risk taker, rather than who would win or lose. I think Manny would see such a fight as a challenge, whereas Ricky might flat-out turn it down because, by his own admission, he doesn't feel 100% confident fighting at Welterweight. However, I would imagine Roach would prefer a battle between Pacquiao and Cotto to be fought at a catch-weight in order to somewhat level out the playing field.

            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            Pretty sure it's Tszyu, although I imagine both Collazo and Mayweather also hit harder than Pac does (in actual rather than P4P terms). Maybe even Urango does, as well.
            I would also think Tszyu is the hardest puncher Ricky has faced. Urango looks to be very strong, too. On the other hand, it could be possible we're making slightly too big of a deal about punch power, because as we know, it doesn't take huge amounts of power to knock Ricky out once he is worn down. I don't believe Mayweather is a huge puncher, although his power may be slightly underrated by some, but he managed to have him seeing stars with a perfectly timed hook.

            Who punches harder is always so difficult to say for sure. Obviously, none of us have ever stepped into the ring with any of these guys, yet some people seem absolutely convinced that X hits harder than Y. Again, I think we are making too much of a big deal about it. Manny's trend of recent times seems to be to wear naturally larger opponents down with lots of smaller, rapid-fire shots while utilizing lots of lateral and in-out movement, so considering this, I wouldn't expect him to put full leverage behind his punches. He cannot afford to sit down on his shots in case he gets caught by a big punch himself, and I come to the conclusion that power won't be his main focus. At least, not until later in the fight when he is more likely to try for a knockout.



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            Last edited by S A M U R A I; 03-06-2009, 01:27 PM.

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              #76
              Hatton's claimed that he is massive at Jr. Welterweight

              I do fully agree with Hatton that he is much bigger size compared to Pacman and this is an advantage for him. However, being big and massive in size has also disavantage. On May 2, 2009 most probably Pacman will have no problem in finding his target because Hatton is massive in front of him.

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                #77
                Originally posted by evanjohn
                I do fully agree with Hatton that he is much bigger size compared to Pacman and this is an advantage for him. However, being big and massive in size has also disavantage. On May 2, 2009 most probably Pacman will have no problem in finding his target because Hatton is massive in front of him.
                The size difference is probably less than many of us think. Sure, Ricky has the naturally larger frame but things will even out closer to fight time when they're hitting 140 each. Of course, when there's months to go until the fight, Ricky is larger. Manny keeps himself in good shape throughout the year, but Ricky doesn't.

                Here are some stats. They seem quite accurate, according to other sources I've checked.



                Going on this, most advantages are held by Pacquiao.



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                  #78
                  Originally posted by evanjohn
                  I do fully agree with Hatton that he is much bigger size compared to Pacman and this is an advantage for him. However, being big and massive in size has also disavantage. On May 2, 2009 most probably Pacman will have no problem in finding his target because Hatton is massive in front of him.

                  unlike dlh, hatton won't be just standing in front of him.....hopefully he'll be punching back.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by tyde13
                    unlike dlh, hatton won't be just standing in front of him.....hopefully he'll be punching back.
                    No doubt he will. Pacquiao tends to have trouble with slick, elusive fighters, though (Marquez and Morales), not brawlers who come forwards, but boxers and counter-punchers. The brawlers who fought Pac usually come off second best.



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                      #80
                      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                      The bigger they come...

                      The harder they fall...

                      Pacquaio late T/KO.

                      See ya, Ricky!
                      :thumbup:...........

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