In what WeightClass & Percentage of PBF career will "YOU" judge FLOYD MAYWEATHER???

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #101
    Originally posted by Real OG
    Don't be

    The haters cancel out the nuthuggers to the point where Floyd is judged how he should be judged

    Top 50 ATG
    Most skilled fighter of his generation
    5 weight division champ while going unbeaten

    In saying that, If Manny beats Hatton, he surpasses Floyd as the best fighter of the generation

    That would prove that Manny could beat a credible opponent above 130
    Please name 3 top 50 ATG's who retired in their prime.

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    • Horus
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      #102
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      Please name 3 top 50 ATG's who retired in their prime.
      Rocky Marciano,Marvin Hagler,Aaron Pryor,Lennox Lewis
      Last edited by Horus; 03-03-2009, 04:07 PM.

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      • JAB5239
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        #103
        Originally posted by Horus
        Rocky Marciano,Marvin Hagler,Aaron Pryor
        Marciano isn't top 50 and Hagler wasn't prime. Nice try though!

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        • RL_GMA
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          #104
          Originally posted by Horus
          Rocky Marciano,Marvin Hagler,Aaron Pryor,Lennox Lewis
          What weight would you consider Floyd's prime to be in?

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          • Horus
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            #105
            Originally posted by RL_GMA
            What weight would you consider Floyd's prime to be in?
            can you reply to my other post...

            I would like to understand How I am wrong when I say Floyd is closer to Pacquaio and Hatton rather then Floyd vs. 98% of the Welterweight Division..?.

            Plz proved me wrong..

            You can say he is a prime welterweight..because he was or is in his prime and his last division was welterweight..but compared to other welterweight in the division... Mayweather is small...

            If Mayweather Has grown into a Natural WW, What Have the Other Fighters who have been in the WW division Grown into if that is their 1st or 2nd Division..?
            or
            do you think that Mayweather is the only fighter who Grows in the Division?


            Name 1 welterweight floyd is bigger then??

            See the problem is people got used to floyd fighting bigger fighters all the time, that when he fights somebody his own size or smaller therE is now a problem...

            How come people dont say Paul Williams vs. Floyd is a mismatch
            But people will say Floyd vs. JMM is a mismatch??

            Paul Started at 160
            Floyd started at 130 (where he spent 69% of his career)
            JMM started at 126

            Floyd has spent less then 10% of his career fighting above 140...less then 10%

            So You tell me who is closer in size....

            I can do that with the whole Welterweight division not just Paul...
            maybe it is pointless trying to get you too see the point...but that is the point.

            What is the problem with Floyd fighting fighters who are the same size as him or smaller then him???

            why does floyd have to be at a disadvantage in order for it to be a fair fight???


            Why is ok for Floyd to fight a fighter coming from 160 but not a fighter coming from 130....? when floyd came from 130??
            or any division close to 130?

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              #106
              Originally posted by Horus
              Rocky Marciano,Marvin Hagler,Aaron Pryor,Lennox Lewis
              Marciano was 32 and past it for sure. Clearly evidenced in his last fight with Moore.

              Hagler was 33 and past it for sure. He was never the same after Hearns.

              Pryor???? You gotta be kidding. He was blind and did fight until he was 35 anyway. By that standard Joe Gans retired in his prime as well. He died.

              Ask any limey if Lennox was in his prime when he fought Vitali.


              Personally I cannot think of any ATG-fighter who retired while in the prime of their life. Just sayin'.

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              • Horus
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                #107
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                Marciano isn't top 50 and Hagler wasn't prime. Nice try though!
                Huh Marciano not a top 50 all time???? according to who?
                Hagler wasnt in his prime..??? when did he show signs of being past his prime before he fought leonard??? He retired because he felt like he was robb....in that fight
                ok for argument sake thats still Aaron Pryor, Lewis, and just for Argument sake lets say Naseem Hamed... Who may not be top 50 atg be he is one of the greatest featherweights to ever do it...

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  Marciano was 32 and past it for sure. Clearly evidenced in his last fight with Moore.

                  Hagler was 33 and past it for sure. He was never the same after Hearns.

                  Pryor???? You gotta be kidding. He was blind and did fight until he was 35 anyway. By that standard Joe Gans retired in his prime as well. He died.

                  Ask any limey if Lennox was in his prime when he fought Vitali.


                  Personally I cannot think of any ATG-fighter who retired while in the prime of their life. Just sayin'.
                  Game, Set, Match.

                  Furthermore, it's pretty pathetic to have to try and pretend Floyd fought at one weight class just so you can put him in whatever category Horus dreams of when he writes these novels/love letters.

                  Keep it up, Bat. You're on fire today.

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                  • Horus
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    Marciano was 32 and past it for sure. Clearly evidenced in his last fight with Moore.

                    Hagler was 33 and past it for sure. He was never the same after Hearns.

                    Pryor???? You gotta be kidding. He was blind and did fight until he was 35 anyway. By that standard Joe Gans retired in his prime as well. He died.

                    Ask any limey if Lennox was in his prime when he fought Vitali.


                    Personally I cannot think of any ATG-fighter who retired while in the prime of their life. Just sayin'.
                    Ok before i go into full pick apart your argument mode...



                    What are your standards for a fighter being past their Prime???

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      Huh Marciano not a top 50 all time???? according to who?
                      Hagler wasnt in his prime..??? when did he show signs of being past his prime before he fought leonard??? He retired because he felt like he was robb....in that fight
                      ok for argument sake thats still Aaron Pryor, Lewis, and just for Argument sake lets say Naseem Hamed... Who may not be top 50 atg be he is one of the greatest featherweights to ever do it...
                      Stop being a dunce - your posts show you've got some skill that would actually benefit the boards if you didn't waste it all on your lover. Even Leonard admits he took the fight because he saw Hagler was fading. It began subtly but was quite apparent against Mugabi.

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