Antonio Margarito on Mexico's All-Time list?

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  • IwatchBoxing
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    #81
    Originally posted by TheManchine
    Basora was also beaten by a lot of boxers other than Robinson and LaMotta...

    He did have great moments during his career but it's not as if he bested Robinson or LaMotta, he lost the series to both of them (which is no shame since they were great fighters).

    I would place him on my list but everyone's record can be picked apart just as you are picking apart the resumes of Rosario, Camacho and Serrano. They were accomplished fighters.
    So, how do you make a top ten list !!!

    You have to pick apart !!

    LOLOLOLOLOL

    Do a list, mine is far better than Saddo, you see, PR lists are all F'ed up, purposely to blind people searching for the thurth, I seen Champions list, boy he feel bad seeing them have Trinidad at 11 LOLOLOL

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      #82
      Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
      So, how do you make a top ten list !!!

      You have to pick apart !!

      LOLOLOLOLOL

      Do a list, mine is far better than Saddo, you see, PR lists are all F'ed up, purposely to blind people searching for the thurth, I seen Champions list, boy he feel bad seeing them have Trinidad at 11 LOLOLOL
      What I'm saying is that you're not picking them apart in a good way, for others such as DeLeon (who did not really fight anyone with a name) you'd point out to his record of titles held and defended but for Serrano or Rosario you'd say that they never fought anybody (even though they fought a similar/higher level of competition of DeLeon).

      That's just my opinion. I'm not saying that your list is bad but you asked for people's opinions about your list and I gave you mine.

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        #83
        Originally posted by TheManchine
        What I'm saying is that you're not picking them apart in a good way, for others such as DeLeon (who did not really fight anyone with a name) you'd point out to his record of titles held and defended but for Serrano or Rosario you'd say that they never fought anybody (even though they fought a similar/higher level of competition of DeLeon).

        That's just my opinion. I'm not saying that your list is bad but you asked for people's opinions about your list and I gave you mine.
        De Leon was ranked where, when (Boxingscene)they made their top cruiserweights of all time?

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          #84
          Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
          De Leon was ranked where, when (Boxingscene)they made their top cruiserweights of all time?
          Number 2.

          The cruiserweight division is a notoriously weak division and relatively new compared to the others. DeLeon held titles for many years but he lost to his best opponents and some mediocre ones as well.

          Not that DeLeon wasn't a good fighter but Rosario beat better names than he did while Serrano made more title defenses than he did. You would have to rank the three pretty close to each other based on this.

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            #85
            #2 all time Cruiserweight

            I dont see how you could compare them, to him.

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              #86
              Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
              #2 all time Cruiserweight

              I dont see how you could compare them, to him.
              Johnny Nelson is the number 3 greatest cruiserweight according to that list.

              He probably doesn't make the top 25 greatest British fighters.

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                #87
                Originally posted by TheManchine
                Number 2.

                The cruiserweight division is a notoriously weak division and relatively new compared to the others. DeLeon held titles for many years but he lost to his best opponents and some mediocre ones as well.

                Not that DeLeon wasn't a good fighter but Rosario beat better names than he did while Serrano made more title defenses than he did.
                So did Hector Camacho, but he wasn't listed either, I listed Camacho because he was better than Edwin, and not basing it on one fight.

                That is still an accomplishment, I hear Ricardo Lopez was in a weak divsion too, but is ranked very highly.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by TheManchine
                  Johnny Nelson is the number 3 greatest cruiserweight.

                  He probably doesn't make the top 25 greatest British fighters list.
                  Than who does? I dont know anything about British fighters, sorry other than Lennox Lewis, Ricky Hatton, Nicky Cook, and David Haye (one of my favorites)

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                    Than who does? I dont know anything about British fighters, sorry other than Lennox Lewis, Ricky Hatton, Nicky Cook, and David Haye (one of my favorites)
                    Not my official list but here are a couple of names that I'd consider better than Johnny Nelson:

                    Lennox Lewis
                    Jimmy Wilde
                    Bob Fitzsimmons
                    Joe Calzaghe
                    Ted 'Kid' Lewis
                    Ken Buchanan
                    Freddie Welsh
                    Jim Driscoll
                    Randy Turpin
                    Naseem Hamed
                    Ricky Hatton
                    Barry McGuigan
                    Chris Eubank
                    Nigel Benn
                    Freddie Mills
                    Lloyd Honeyghan
                    Howard Winstone
                    Benny Lynch
                    Owen Moran
                    Jackie Berg
                    Terry Downes
                    John Conteh

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by TheManchine
                      Not my official list but here are a couple of names that I'd consider better than Johnny Nelson:

                      Lennox Lewis
                      Jimmy Wilde
                      Bob Fitzsimmons
                      Joe Calzaghe
                      Ted 'Kid' Lewis
                      Ken Buchanan
                      Freddie Welsh
                      Jim Driscoll
                      Randy Turpin
                      Naseem Hamed
                      Ricky Hatton
                      Barry McGuigan
                      Chris Eubank
                      Nigel Benn
                      Freddie Mills
                      Lloyd Honeyghan
                      Howard Winstone
                      Benny Lynch
                      Owen Moran
                      Jackie Berg
                      Terry Downes
                      John Conteh
                      Joe Calzaghe

                      right, right....

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