Roach is Not Concerned With Ricky Hatton's Body Attack

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  • GRUSTLER
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    #41
    The reason why I give Ricky Hatton a chance to pull an upset is because NOBODY knows what to expect from Hatton since he has Floyd Sr in his corner & new motivation. We only witnessed a lil of what Hatton will do under Floyd Sr's direction from the Malignaggi fight. Freddie Roach is studying 20 prior fights of Hatton but Hatton is improving like how he said Pacquiao is. I think the truth is that Roach is over confident and delusional to say that Manny is a better fighter than Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    To me Pacquiao is co signed in the lower weights but 135 and up he has NOT been tested yet. Hatton is the best at 140 & I don't believe that Manny will be able to run over Hatton like he owns the division. I'm leaning towards picking Hatton for the upset. You know what this scenerio reminds me of as I read the articles about Pacquiao/Hatton?

    Rocky 3 when Clubber Lang was training hard while Rocky was doing charity events and handling endorsements and bigger business deals. Hatton cut out beer, junk food and hitting the gym hard while Pac is living the high life. I believe Pacquiao will train hard but Hatton already has one up on him!
    Can't wait till this fight happens.

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      #42
      Originally posted by deanrw
      I think Hatton will give Manny some real fits early. Ricky is fast on his feet and can dart it very quickly. I think a Prime Ricky would have had the stamina to win, but this one might start getting beat up by Manny the further it goes.

      If Ricky can get to Manny early and throw Manny off his game somehow, he has a great shot. If he cannot throw Manny off his game, he will get stopped mid to late rounds either due to taking a prolonged pounding or cuts.

      I just feel Ricky is past his best days while Manny is still is still within the later parts of his prime.
      So you think Hatton is past his prime? I dont think that. Hes gotten a lil bit better since he has trained with mayweather, but hes not at all a new fighter, hes still Ricky Hatton but hes improving with Sr. I still dont think he can beat Pacman, i think Pacman wins UD or late stoppage.

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        #43
        Originally posted by -Antonio-
        I hope Roach is joking a bit here. Hatton is not slow, and he will definitely land his share of body blows even if he does lose.



        I'm tired of reading this. Hatton didn't change at all. He used his jab a little more like in the Tackie fight maybe, but his style was the same. His corner is better, style is the same.
        I don't agree because Hatton NEVER held Malignaggi in that fight and he used his jab and moved his head from side to side to work his way in so he wouldn't get caught. I hear so many people saying how much Pacquiao has improved but he looks like the same guy to me. All he does is move around and lung in swinging trying to out slug his opponent. How can you tell how much he has improved by fighting David Diaz & Oscar De La Hoya? Clearly he wasn't tested
        in both fights.

        Ricky Hatton is going to test Pacquiao and I believe he will win because to me Pacquiao is a Great offensive fighter but he doesn't have the defensive tools to keep a prime, strong guy like Hatton away from him for 12 rounds and on top of that Manny's power is an accumulation of punches so he is going to have to mix it up with Hatton to score points or even go for the KO.

        Pacquiao has NO defensive strategy & gets hit flush in most every fight! If/When Hatton lands a solid power shot there is a big chance that Pacquiao drops. I like Pacquiao but just not that confident in him like everyone else
        because if a fighter doesn't have any defense then I cannot ride with him fully.

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          #44
          Well he should, otherwise his fighter will have bruised ribs just like Castillo.

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            #45
            im on the same wave length as roach. no prior fight that ricky has been in has showed me that he is good enough to beat pac. his level of comp has been no where near the level pac has had. maybe ricky's strength will be the determining factor, but roach and pac are an awesome team, and will be able to counter hattons strengths. if hatton doesn't overpower pac, i see this as another one sided fight. pac is just to explosive.

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              #46
              Here's the facts. I'm not going to sleep on fighters NO matter what age they are anymore because Hopkins/Mosley showed that the phrase "PAST THEIR PRIME" doesn't mean anything in boxing unless your totally shot like Roy Jones Jr. Ricky Hatton is in his prime and only has 1 professional lost at 147 to the best technical fighter of this generation in the 10th round so that is not a bad thing.

              We have to also remember that Maliggnaggi went 12 rounds with Miguel Cotto, taking a beating in the process and Hatton made Malignaggi corner throw in the towel so that says a lot in how hard Hatton hits especially since his corner let the Cotto fight continue. Hatton is NO push over and we have yet to see how Pacquiao really can do in a higher weight class against a top guy. De La Hoya didn't even fight back and Diaz was out of his league and over whelmed. Manny's going to get officially tested come May.

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                #47
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                Here's the facts. I'm not going to sleep on fighters NO matter what age they are anymore because Hopkins/Mosley showed that the phrase "PAST THEIR PRIME" doesn't mean anything in boxing unless your totally shot like Roy Jones Jr. Ricky Hatton is in his prime and only has 1 professional lost at 147 to the best technical fighter of this generation in the 10th round so that is not a bad thing.

                We have to also remember that Maliggnaggi went 12 rounds with Miguel Cotto, taking a beating in the process and Hatton made Malignaggi corner throw in the towel so that says a lot in how hard Hatton hits especially since his corner let the Cotto fight continue. Hatton is NO push over and we have yet to see how Pacquiao really can do in a higher weight class against a top guy. De La Hoya didn't even fight back and Diaz was out of his league and over whelmed. Manny's going to get officially tested come May.
                You make good points but Malignaggi wasn't the same fighter he was for Cotto. Even he would tell you that. I think it's a tough fight for Pacquaio but I can only see Hatton winning if he's able to match Pac on the outside using his own jab. But I doubt he has the foot speed to do that.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Puntoyhauf
                  Even good teachers can't always have good students.
                  I'm sure Hatton will learn from Mayweather Sr. and have some improvements...but
                  "BAD HABITS" will always be carried by any student, and a trainer will take so much effort to take those bad habits off.

                  All fighters got bad habits, and sometimes it leads to their defeat.
                  And that is why I don't make predictions because I don't know when does a fighter commit their bad habits..mistakes that their opponents might capitalize in.



                  well, better post more posts to have enough points to bet before the fight.



                  easy...the guy only have 3,296.17
                  I'll have enough by fight night mate!

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by -Antonio-
                    I hope Roach is joking a bit here. Hatton is not slow, and he will definitely land his share of body blows even if he does lose.
                    I agree, I've seen very few boxers so adept at cutting off the ring as he is. I don't know why so many people on here are unwilling to admit this.


                    Originally posted by -Antonio-
                    I'm tired of reading this. Hatton didn't change at all. He used his jab a little more like in the Tackie fight maybe, but his style was the same. His corner is better, style is the same.
                    Mayweather Snr has never tried to change his style, but he has tried - successfully IMO - to re-emphasise some positive aspects of his style that Hatton had badly neglected in recent fights - specifically, jabbing his way in rather than leading with his chin, more head movement, and more angles (and you're right to mention the Tackie fight as an example of him doing all three well in the past). It's true that it remains to be seen how well he is able to implement those things against Pacquiao, but those who write off Mayweather Snr's ability to improve Hatton's implementation of his existing style are seriously underestimating Mayweather Snr, IMO. I'm sure he'll look a lot better against Pac than he did against Mayweather Jnr, whatever the result.
                    Last edited by Dave Rado; 02-25-2009, 02:52 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      You make good points but Malignaggi wasn't the same fighter he was for Cotto. Even he would tell you that. I think it's a tough fight for Pacquaio but I can only see Hatton winning if he's able to match Pac on the outside using his own jab. But I doubt he has the foot speed to do that.
                      Maybe Malignaggi was or wasn't but his only two loses come from Cotto/Hatton. Cotto he went 12 and Hatton had Pauli's corner throwing in the towel in the 11th because Malignaggi was WAY behind on points and was taking a beating. Hatton jab (When he uses it) is like a power punch and Floyd Senior during the Malignaggi fight kept encouraging Hatton to use the jab so you know it will be a factor in the Manny fight. Hatton may not be as fast as Manny but he is quick and can close in and cut the ring off at will. Pacquiao will not be able to run circles around Hatton like Oscar and throwing punches in/out like Oscar & Diaz because clearly both them guys do not have the same fight as Hatton. Whenever Manny fights someone tough it is a close fight with exception to Barrera 1 and Morales 2&3.
                      Last edited by GRUSTLER; 02-25-2009, 03:15 PM.

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