The Top 20 Junior Welterweights of All-Time

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  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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    #31
    Originally posted by hammerhiem
    P4P I agree but Ricky has accomplished more at LIGHT welterweight, Benitez's major sucsess was at Welterweight NOT light welterweight.

    Sadly achievements at more than one weight tends to hurt you in this (flawed) format.
    Benitez won the Lineal title at 17, from the number 1 LWW in this list. That alone ****s all over what hatton have done his entire career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • crold1
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      #32
      BTW...I appreciate all the feedback negative and positive from readers. I know this sort of analysis isn't everyone's cup of tea but it's a different way of looking at things and over soon enough for those who don't like it.

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      • poeticlsykuac
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        #33
        These lists are hard but you have all of the main guys up there. Pryor was a beast and one of the few fighters I would love to see fight ANYONE in history to see the results. He had a chin, speed, power, mental strength, and intelligence.

        The Hawk holds a shot at beating anyone in the history of the 140 pound division.

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        • crold1
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          #34
          Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
          These lists are hard but you have all of the main guys up there. Pryor was a beast and one of the few fighters I would love to see fight ANYONE in history to see the results. He had a chin, speed, power, mental strength, and intelligence.

          The Hawk holds a shot at beating anyone in the history of the 140 pound division.
          That's kind of how I see it. There's some odd ball names that come up but that doesn't bother me because, hey, someone might look up there fights. And the guys at the top for this list could easily be in any type of top five at the weight.

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          • crold1
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            #35
            FYI...misprint on Tszyu's score. It should read 14.07.

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            • Dan...
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              #36
              I don't mind the list. I would have had Pryor at #1 personally but I can't really argue with the top few.

              Also, to the ppl who think it is ridiculous that Kessler was rated at #2 at 168 just remember the division is very young and, although Kessler's resume may not be up to scratch, his achievements in the division surpass pretty much all others.

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              • Steak
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                #37
                I actually think this is the best list so far. Im not incredibly surprised that Cervantes is number 1...apart from being an excellent fighter on his own, he beat a huge amount of other good fighters. much like how Norris should probebly be rated #1 at Light Middleweight, despite the fact that he would probebly have lost to a few others on the list.
                #1 is still kind of a stretch, but theres no clean cut best at 140 either for that matter.

                De La Hoya should probebly be a little bit lower...he only had like 2 fights at 140...but those wins were pretty good. I think he makes the top 20.

                Im not too big on Hatton so high either, but Im glad guys like Juan Martin Coggi and Barney Ross got rated fairly high.

                I think Tyszu should have been above Locche. always liked Locche, but he didnt have a giant amount of wins at the world class level. and Ive read that his 'draw' with Carlos Ortiz was very controversial. Locche was a fantastic defensive fighter, but he had his limits.

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                • crold1
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by blackirish137
                  I actually think this is the best list so far. Im not incredibly surprised that Cervantes is number 1...apart from being an excellent fighter on his own, he beat a huge amount of other good fighters. much like how Norris should probebly be rated #1 at Light Middleweight, despite the fact that he would probebly have lost to a few others on the list.
                  #1 is still kind of a stretch, but theres no clean cut best at 140 either for that matter.

                  De La Hoya should probebly be a little bit lower...he only had like 2 fights at 140...but those wins were pretty good. I think he makes the top 20.

                  Im not too big on Hatton so high either, but Im glad guys like Juan Martin Coggi and Barney Ross got rated fairly high.

                  I think Tyszu should have been above Locche. always liked Locche, but he didnt have a giant amount of wins at the world class level. and Ive read that his 'draw' with Carlos Ortiz was very controversial. Locche was a fantastic defensive fighter, but he had his limits.
                  Thanks. I loved this one. Take out active fighters, and Canzo moves into the top ten for an absolutely sick roster. Next week will be 130 with guys like PBF, Arguello and Elorde.

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                  • Dan...
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                    #39
                    I'm looking forward to the 130 list. I can never decide out of Floyd and Alexis.

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                    • crold1
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                      #40
                      Using this standard, you still might not be able to. You won't believe how close they are.

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