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Actually i agree about him not consistently competing on the world level at this stage, although this is the right fight for him. A good but smaller, open defensively fighter that wins fights by simply out working his opponents. See Williams/Quintana, Mosley/Margarito or Hopkins/Pavlik as examples of fighters needing their opponents to be more stationary in order to out work them. Those volume punches have to actually land and Hopkins is one of, if not the hardest boxer to hit in the sport. Williams didn't show a great ability of cutting off the ring in the first Quintana fight at all, what would he do against a bigger, smarter fighter with more power and superior foot work? Hopkins is just simply too strong and smart IMO.
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Haha this is absurd. Reed has gone from Williams hater to hugger? Dude you got some good points, this form of Bernard is certainly beatable. Dawson could do it if he doesn't get nailed, Maybe Adamek even catches him hard in mid-late rounds when Hopkins usually gets away with resting against more timid fighters, his talks of going to heavyweight definitely left a big question mark for me, but Williams?! I was more impressed than anyone by his Wright performance. He adapted his style, used his reach FINALLY, and when he was in too close he didn't get suckered into a punch fest, he clinched. Still Wright was thrown off his game plan pretty fast and didn't present any problems. Hopkins is much bigger than Williams, far more accurate, and presents wayyyy better movement. The only question for me is if Williams gets knocked out or not. He's just too open, and you talk about his workrate but he obviously will not punch like that in front of BHop, if he does it's a one way ticket to the canvas from big right hand leads.Comment
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44 year old Hopkins does not have superior footwork to Paul Williams... Paul is around the ring for all 12 rounds.. in and out of range all 12 rounds...
Bernard Hopkins have superior footwork to Kelly, is different then having it over Williams...
And apparently you missed the CONSTANT head and lateral movement Williams did for all 12 rounds... and how he stays out of range where only he can hit you with his reach...
Hes not as EASY to hit as you seem to think... again... Kelly, a flat footed, plodding, COME FORWARD style fighter... is not paul williams, is any way shape or form...
Bernard needs more then strength in this fight...Comment
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I guess I had you confused with someone else, but my point remains the same. Don't get me wrong, I have been preaching since before the Margarito fight that Williams was the man to beat Floyd, and all types of fighters. But you don't put him above 160 to fight Bernard. You're delusional.Comment
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You did say it wasn't close but i ain't gonna argue with you over it.Could of gone either way?
that was a CLEAR victory for Joe... and I was rooting for Bernard the entire way... Bernard looked gassed by round 8.... im sorry but he struggled to land in the last half of the fight...
Joe just outworked him pure and simple... 7 rounds to 5 is the closest you could have it IMO
you basically seen a close but clear fight, sort of like the Cotto - Mosley fight.
Williams isn't a one dimensional fighter but would have to be one dimensional to beat Hopkins because he can't outbox him, he can only outwork him.
Hopkins wouldn't beat Williams the way Quintana did, i agree that there is no way Hopkins could keep up that amount of lateral movement all fight but Hopkins wouldn't need to move all fight to win, He could simply make Williams come in, tag him with counters and tie him up. Hopkins is clearly the stronger man and is the smarter inside fighter so tieing Williams up wouldn't be that hard. I just don't see Williams being as aggressive as he usually is with his opponents because the punches coming at him from Hopkins would hurt him and would discourage him which would lead to Williams being cautious to throw and not getting off his usual 100 punches a round.Comment
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He showed head and lateral movement against Winky? Winky is a crafty but stationary boxer, he didn't try to use the ring on Williams because he was forced to become the aggressor, Hopkins is a master at forcing his opponent to come to him and that would be the only way Williams would have a shot at winning, because at a tactical standpoint this fight is a mismatch. I know Williams is faster than Kelly and somewhat a better boxer, although Williams is actually smaller than Pavlik and has not fought anyone bigger than him on top of having those ring smarts. Calzaghe( who is bigger than Williams and a more skillful volume puncher) even had problems landing on Hopkins, Williams is more easier to hit than Calzaghe and is not as strong. Actually Joe's strength is part of the reason he won the fight against Hopkins, anyone not as strong as Hopkins wouldn't have been able to handle his inside tricks and muscling.
And on Williams defense, take a look at the Quintana fight, the Phillips fight, the Walter Maythesse fight and even the Margarito fight. Now add to the fact that he is easy to cut.Comment
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Like I keep saying, using the Quintana fight is a fail at this point... Paul is a much better fighter, it is plain to see as far as im concerned...
I understand Bernard is a bigger fighter...
But a 44 year old human being, having to make 168 lbs.... and then proceed to keep up with williams for 12 rounds..
Woujd Bernard get his clean counter shots in? OF COURSE HE WOULD...
It just wouldnt be enough... Bernard would not be able to win a decision IMO...
He would have to knock williams out...Comment
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