Who has the better resume at 175. RJJ or Michalczewski?

[BattlingNelson]

and those 5 roy loses are bull****......

You mean he slipped?

[BrendanWoodside]

You mean he slipped?

whats your take bat??

[larryx]

You mean he slipped?

griffin lose was bull**** as we all know
and after the ruiz fight it was open season on roy

[BattlingNelson]

whats your take bat??

I've thought about making this thread for a while. In my head the options of the poll should have been something like this:

RJJ is waaaaaaayyyyy better than DM
or
RJJ is better than DM.

After checking their records I must say DM's impressed me quite a bit and I also realize that RJJ's claim to greatness is definetely not based solely on his endeavors at 175 alone.

DM might have fought a couple of clubfighters but so did RJJ. DM also has some pretty good names on his record and RJJ's losses look pretty bad.

I think it's about even or a little plus to RJJ. I think it's rubbish if anyone says that their resumes are way apart because they are not. Remember this is only 175.

[TheGreatA]

Common opponents:

Virgil Hill
Michalczewski UD 12
Jones KO 4

Notes: Hill was the unified WBA & IBF champion and the number 1 light heavyweight at the time he fought Michalczewski. He had not fought for a year and was coming off a loss to Michalczewski when he fought Roy Jones who KO'd him with a bodyshot.

Montell Griffin
Michalczewski TKO 4
Jones loss by DQ 9, win by KO1

Notes: Griffin was undefeated at the time he fought Jones and coming off two (controversial) wins over James Toney. Griffin was a top contender when he fought Michalzewski but he had recently lost a split decision to Eric Harding.

Richard Hall
Jones TKO 11 (referee stoppage)
Michalczewski TKO 11 (stopped due to swelling), TKO 10 (referee stoppage)

Notes: Jones dominated the interim WBA LHW champion Richard Hall from start to finish. Hall was coming off a loss to Jones when he fought Michalczewski but he put up a good effort and lost somewhat controversially two times.

Derrick Harmon
Roy Jones TKO 11 (corner stoppage)
Dariusz Michalczewski KO 9

Notes: Harmon had recently lost a split decision when he fought Roy Jones, nevertheless he had piled up a good record. After losing to Jones he went onto beat Glen Johnson and Tim Littles and lose a decision to Montell Griffin, then fought Michalczewski and was KO'd in the 9th round.

JC Gonzales
Roy Jones UD 12
Darius Michalczewski loss by SD

Notes: Gonzales was undefeated including a win over an undefeated Julian Letterlough when he fought Jones. Jones dominated him for 12 rounds but failed to finish him. Years later, coming off a majority decision win over Glen Johnson, he beat 48-0 Michalczewski by a split decision.

[BattlingNelson]

Common opponents:

Virgil Hill
Michalczewski UD 12
Jones KO 4

Notes: Hill was the unified WBA & IBF champion and the number 1 light heavyweight at the time he fought Michalczewski. He had not fought for a year and was coming off a loss to Michalczewski when he fought Roy Jones who KO'd him with a bodyshot.

Montell Griffin
Michalczewski TKO 4
Jones loss by DQ 9, win by KO1

Notes: Griffin was undefeated at the time he fought Jones and coming off two (controversial) wins over James Toney. Griffin was a top contender when he fought Michalzewski but he had recently lost a split decision to Eric Harding.

Richard Hall
Jones TKO 11 (referee stoppage)
Michalczewski TKO 11 (stopped due to swelling), TKO 10 (referee stoppage)

Notes: Jones dominated the interim WBA LHW champion Richard Hall from start to finish. Hall was coming off a loss to Jones when he fought Michalczewski but he put up a good effort and lost somewhat controversially two times.

Derrick Harmon
Roy Jones TKO 11 (corner stoppage)
Dariusz Michalczewski KO 9

Notes: Harmon had recently lost a split decision when he fought Roy Jones, nevertheless he had piled up a good record. After losing to Jones he went onto beat Glen Johnson and Tim Littles and lose a decision to Montell Griffin, then fought Michalczewski and was KO'd in the 9th round.

JC Gonzales
Roy Jones UD 12
Darius Michalczewski loss by SD

Notes: Gonzales was undefeated including a win over an undefeated Julian Letterlough when he fought Jones. Jones dominated him for 12 rounds but failed to finish him. Years later, coming off a majority decision win over Glen Johnson, he beat 48-0 Michalczewski by a split decision.

Thanks for adding those thoughts to the thread. I wonder how you remember all those details. To say I'm impressed is an understatement. You must think boxing 24/7. Are you Per Åke Persson in real life?

How would you rate them?

[THE REED]

Im sure he got a little help with some research...

[dans]

There's really only two notable opponents that DM beat, Hill and Griffin. Outside of that, I haven't even heard of most of those guys, maybe just because I'm American though.

[Chunk..]

It's a shame Michalczewski pinned himself in Germany. Roy was never gonna fight him there.

[BattlingNelson]

It's a shame Michalczewski pinned himself in Germany. Roy was never gonna fight him there.

Is there a real credible explanation as to why they never fought each other?