The Way to Beat Mayweather?

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  • a-raines21
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    #41
    Originally posted by andrewcuff
    Nuthugger alert!!! Aarrgrgh!!

    Roach/Oscar noticed the jab flaw because when Oscar kept jabbing Floyd he had much more success. When he stopped jabbing he lost the rounds.
    one fight?
    seriously dude....... im sure there is a way to beat floyd, but imo it seems ****** to assume that you have figured out something that the ppl who acctually have to fight his haven't..... any you are only talking about what he does defensivly, when you add offense to the equation, then its a different story

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    • andrewcuff
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      #42
      Originally posted by letsgobrady
      oscar only landed about 3-4 jabs so how succesful are you in match only landing 4 jabs and maybe the reason floyd got caught with those 4 jabs was because oscar was not jabbing so when he did throw a jab it was unexpected if oscar would of had a more consistant jab that night floyd would of just found a way around it
      3-4 jabs landed? You are aware which fight we're talking about, yes?

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      • letsgobrady
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        #43
        Originally posted by andrewcuff
        Why do people on this forum not seem to understand the fact that EVERY fighter has weaknesses? NO fighter is perfect and EVERY fighter can be beaten
        if everyone has a weakness and no one is perfect and everyone can be beaten then why are calzaghe and mayweather both undefeated? the only fight floyd has had that was anything close to a loss is the 1st castillo fight and how long ago was that fight since that fight no one has come close to beatin floyd not even castillo in the rematch

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          #44
          Originally posted by andrewcuff
          3-4 jabs landed? You are aware which fight we're talking about, yes?
          are you? you must be countin all the jabs that oscar threw at floyds shoulder in round 7 but i don't count shoulder punching jabs

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          • andrewcuff
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            #45
            Originally posted by a-raines21
            one fight?
            seriously dude....... im sure there is a way to beat floyd, but imo it seems ****** to assume that you have figured out something that the ppl who acctually have to fight his haven't..... any you are only talking about what he does defensivly, when you add offense to the equation, then its a different story
            Concentrating on defense makes sense because that's what his entire game is based around? You watch him when the opponent lets him makes the first move...he doesn't look at dangerous as when he's counterpunching. He much prefers the other guy making the first move.

            Anyway, I'm sure people like Roach, like Mayweather Sr have noticed flaws but they haven't exactly released the "How to Beat Floyd" manual so I wanted to know what other people thought.

            I understand you're a big fan of his, but watch his fights again and you'll see that while he makes it difficult to tag him cleanly its far from impossible...

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              #46
              Originally posted by letsgobrady
              if everyone has a weakness and no one is perfect and everyone can be beaten then why are calzaghe and mayweather both undefeated? the only fight floyd has had that was anything close to a loss is the 1st castillo fight and how long ago was that fight since that fight no one has come close to beatin floyd not even castillo in the rematch
              You aren't seriously asking this question are you? Give it up, fanboy. If Floyd had fought Tszyu, Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Forrest and Winky, do you still think he'd be undefeated?

              Oh and btw, by that logic, I'm sure Marciano must be the greatest, most technically gifted heavyweight fighter of all time since he's the only one who retired undefeated.

              LMAO!

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              • a-raines21
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                #47
                Originally posted by andrewcuff
                Concentrating on defense makes sense because that's what his entire game is based around? You watch him when the opponent lets him makes the first move...he doesn't look at dangerous as when he's counterpunching. He much prefers the other guy making the first move.

                Anyway, I'm sure people like Roach, like Mayweather Sr have noticed flaws but they haven't exactly released the "How to Beat Floyd" manual so I wanted to know what other people thought.

                I understand you're a big fan of his, but watch his fights again and you'll see that while he makes it difficult to tag him cleanly its far from impossible...
                im aware that floyd has been hurt, cut and all of the above except for put on his knee, back etc........ however, getting hit with a jab does not compare to hitting his opponent with everything at will....... the things that u all bring up may be true, the hard part is finding someone that can actually do these things, while successfully defending mayweathers punches

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by andrewcuff
                  You aren't seriously asking this question are you? Give it up, fanboy. If Floyd had fought Tszyu, Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Forrest and Winky, do you still think he'd be undefeated?

                  Oh and btw, by that logic, I'm sure Marciano must be the greatest, most technically gifted heavyweight fighter of all time since he's the only one who retired undefeated.

                  LMAO!
                  there is a very big chance that floyd would still be undefeated if he hd fought all those guys...... you cannot deny that

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                    #49
                    With mayweather, the hardest part about beating him is keeping you're composure and patience. I really think my strategy i said earlier is the way to go, but the problem with it is, it takes someone who is mentally strong and patient. And guys like that are hard to find. Oscar had it going and was winning, but then got impatient and Mayweather was able to potshot him when he stopped jabbing and picked up the majority of the later rounds. People forget hatton was doing pretty well the first 5 rounds, but lost his composure with the point deduction. Mayweather is physically gifted, but he's not the most physically gifted guy i've seen, but what makes him a great boxer is how mentally focused he is in the ring.

                    If you're going to beat Mayweather, the most important thing is to be patient, and stay mentally tough. Cuz no matter how good you're gameplan is, you lose you're composure just once, he'll make you pay.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by andrewcuff
                      The problem is he relies on the lead right a lot, which I think he telegraphs. Watch him, he either paws with his left a few times, or he tenses his right arm just before he throws it.

                      I think a fighter with a good jab, who is a good body puncher and who can slip the lead right would have a good chance against him
                      This is exactkly why people think Cotto can be him. He fits that description!!!!!!!!

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