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  • Abstraction
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    #21
    Look, the guy is a Fraud. End of.

    He is a talented boxer, but has wasted his entire career.

    Fact is, any boxer's best wins which consists of Lacy and Kessler is hardly anything special.

    Sorry, but Josephine Fraudzaghe has only himself to blame for defending one WBO belt in the worst division in boxing for 7 years, and taking a whole damn decade to unify it. Agaist Bums and Over-Rated Hype Jobs.

    He could have been better, but was afraid of a loss.

    Well sorry, it's not who you lose to, it's who you beat

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    • Duke McKenzie_
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      #22
      Originally posted by miamijohn
      my blog explains Joe to the tee. Read it you ll like it. You may not like the Mayweather one lol but we all got our own views
      I read it, some interesting views. Though anyone who says that Joe's first forty opponents were "unknowns" is betraying their own ignorance.

      I'm not suggesting that it was stellar comp, but to take one example.... Robin Reid was an Olympic medallist who had held two world titles. He might not have fought in Fat Yankland (and when he did he was shot) but it illustrates that these guys weren't exactly "nobodies".

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        #23
        joe calzaghe should have kept his mouth shut.alot of people gave him the benefit of the doubt.now, he's going to look like a ducker.no need for him to say anything.but he had to hear himself talk.now when dawson beats tarver, he is probably going to call calzaghe out.and he is going to look foolish.

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        • Duke McKenzie_
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          #24
          While I do agree that Joe should have fought Dawson, I always LOL at how Joe's career was one long continual "duck".

          First he was ducking Lacy... then Kessler... then Moby... the list goes on.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Duke McKenzie_
            While I do agree that Joe should have fought Dawson, I always LOL at how Joe's career was one long continual "duck".

            First he was ducking Lacy... then Kessler... then Moby... the list goes on.
            The Moby fight should of happened to be honest, but we all know Joe beat him anyways....



            Joe>Roy>Bernard>Johnson>Pavlik

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              #26
              Originally posted by Duke McKenzie_
              While I do agree that Joe should have fought Dawson, I always LOL at how Joe's career was one long continual "duck".

              First he was ducking Lacy... then Kessler... then Moby... the list goes on.
              Glen Johnson..........................

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                #27
                Originally posted by ALT=_=Assassin
                The Moby fight should of happened to be honest, but we all know Joe beat him anyways....



                Joe>Roy>Bernard>Johnson>Pavlik
                Yeah, I used to LOL at those that said Pavlik would beat him, particularly when it was backed by nationalistic fervour... the irony being that Moby has one of the most bolt-upright, "European" styles in boxing today.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Duke McKenzie_
                  Yeah, I used to LOL at those that said Pavlik would beat him, particularly when it was backed by nationalistic fervour... the irony being that Moby has one of the most bolt-upright, "European" styles in boxing today.
                  Maybe that is why Wlad Owns claimed him as a Euro bum until he got beat by Popkins?

                  Do you remember what Poppy said to Moby in the post fight interview?

                  "Yo... You need to fight more like a black person craka and then you will be unstoppable, bend yo knees foo"
                  Last edited by ALT=_=Assassin; 02-21-2009, 11:46 AM.

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                    #29
                    Wow so much Bias and twisting of the truth in one post
                    Originally posted by chiyoko
                    Joe felt Dawson was not ready for him but Peter Manfredo was ready.
                    Lolfredo was HBO's choise not Calzaghe's He complained long and hard about it.

                    Originally posted by chiyoko
                    So there was no point fighting Benard Hopkins who he beat with a split decision but it was sensible to fight Sakio Bika.
                    Hopkin backed out of the fight Not Calzaghe

                    Originally posted by chiyoko
                    So no need to fight Glencoffe Johnson but it was ok to fight Sakio Bika.
                    Johnson has a worse record at SMW than Bika, Calzaghe was injured for the Johnson fight and then johnson got an offer from RJJ, who would you have fought?

                    Originally posted by chiyoko
                    So Roy Jones was washed up in Joe's own words and still it was alright to fight a washed up fighter.It was also fine to say that was Joe's best performance ever and Joe had to quit on a high.SO his high was beating a washed up figher who had been knocked out so many times in the past few years.
                    RJJ was worth $10 million, wouldn't you fight a guy you thought was washed up and you could beat with ease for 410 million?

                    Originally posted by chiyoko
                    Apparently Joseph Calzaghe does not do rematches but he did with Mario Veit.
                    Mario Viet rematch was a mandetory

                    Originally posted by chiyoko
                    Interesting how many times Joseph got injured everytime before a big fight.He even 'injured' his famous hand before the Roy Jones fight.TV stations in the USA called him 'no show Joe'.Those in the UK didnt want him.I dont remember Joe being on PPV in the UK yet even Amir Khan is on PPV,Lewis was and also Hatton is.
                    Calzaghe pulled out of one fight, and it was due to back injury not hand injury.

                    Originally posted by chiyoko
                    Let's be honest,how do you rate this guy called Joe Calzaghe?Really who did he beat?With his long career fighting 'the best' how much money did he make?How much did other fighers make
                    Best SMW ever
                    Top 5 UK fighters ever
                    low 100's ATG

                    He beat 9 world champions (Eubank, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Reid, Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins, RJJ)

                    He made $15 million in his last year alone and I don't think he was exactly broke before that, Sky paid Warren and awful lot of money to have Calzaghe's fights, I don't think he's a pauper. Add in endorsements in Wales where he is as much a National hero as pacquiao, Winning Sports personality of the Year is worth at least £2 million in sponcerships

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ALT=_=Assassin
                      Maybe that is why Wlad Owns claimed him as a Euro bum until he got beat by Popkins?

                      Do you remember what Poppy said to Moby in the post fight interview?

                      "Yo... You need to fight more like a black person craka and then you will be unstoppable, bend yo knees foo"
                      Good to see you back Enemy/Friend

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