Ricky Hatton Deserves Credit For This At Least

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  • Puntoyhauf
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    #31
    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
    At Least he's making the big fights happen, I respect that.

    I respect the fact he left warren and that silly WBU belt behind and is making some proper fights.

    He deserves credit for this, In his last 3 Fights, he took on the best of his generation in his absolute prime at 147 in the USA, took a comeback fight, then made the biggest fight with a top guy at 140 and now is taking on the P4P no1 again in his prime.

    So I think by the end of it he would have fought 2 all time great fighters in 4 fights, that deserves credit.

    The guy is fighting Prime Legends, unlike the other well known British boxer, who doesnt, and seems to get more credit.
    I agree, if he wins... he will finally get the respect he deserves... if he loses, those 2 losses will still look good in his resumé.

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    • Dynamite Kid
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      #32
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Yeah and Team Hatton turned it down because they wanted tune up fights in the States first to make Hatton a star there.

      Lol @ anyone believing that Hatton calling him "boring" made him sign the fight. Yeah thats right, like dudes havent been calling him a coward the past few years without getting fights. Dont be so niave. That was all HBO 24/7 smoke and mirrors to hype the fight.

      Calzaghe move up a division and fight who? Jones? The guy who wouldnt even fight his main rival there?
      That did make the fight happen. Leonard Ellerbe said that too.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Technical_Skill
        He might have been busy with the lacy fight, but im not sure thats bigger with a fight with Tarver who was p4p i think, and came off wins against Jones again, and johnson. But who cares.

        The point is, I cant see how people excuse calzaghe for not moving up in weight, and going to america when its too late. The manfredo fight was a debacle imo.


        Thing is Joe moves up he is ducking Lacy u know it, Lacy at the time was the biggest name in American boxing and odds on in the States and in Britisher land. Joe cleaned out 168 then moved up and took on the number 1 guy at the weight class the guy who obliterated Tarver.

        Should Calzaghe have stepped it up earlier? yes! but your argument has little substance.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Testdead
          Thing is Joe moves up he is ducking Lacy u know it, Lacy at the time was the biggest name in American boxing and odds on in the States and in Britisher land. Joe cleaned out 168 then moved up and took on the number 1 guy at the weight class the guy who obliterated Tarver.

          Should Calzaghe have stepped it up earlier? yes! but your argument has little substance.
          Listen you got me wrong, i havent suggested calzaghe Should have ditched Lacy at that precise moment and gone for Tarver in a fight he may not have got instead of hopkins.

          All im saying is, i doubt Lacy, who hadnt really fought too many of note, was a bigger fight than Tarver who came off wins against jones x2 and a win over glen Johnson.

          I understand perhaps tarver vs calzaghe couldnt have happen right at that particular moment.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Technical_Skill
            Listen you got me wrong, i havent suggested calzaghe Should have ditched Lacy at that precise moment and gone for Tarver in a fight he may not have got instead of hopkins.

            All im saying is, i doubt Lacy, who hadnt really fought too many of note, was a bigger fight than Tarver who came off wins against jones x2 and a win over glen Johnson.

            I understand perhaps tarver vs calzaghe couldnt have happen right at that particular moment.


            Thats it who was Calzaghe pre Lacy to get a Tarver shot? the fight would never ever have gone ahead. Post Lacy yes, but Calzaghe fought Kessler and Tarver made Rocky.

            Thing is Taver/Calzaghe would never happen pre Lacy the network would never agree him fight Calzaghe.

            Had Tarver beat Wright and Hopkins then hell yer he didnt the far better fighter did so Joe moved up messed the weight up had a career worse display and still had Hopkins acting like his ***** late in the fight.

            Calzone deserves his dues, great fighter.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Testdead
              Thats it who was Calzaghe pre Lacy to get a Tarver shot? the fight would never ever have gone ahead. Post Lacy yes, but Calzaghe fought Kessler and Tarver made Rocky.

              Thing is Taver/Calzaghe would never happen pre Lacy the network would never agree him fight Calzaghe.

              Had Tarver beat Wright and Hopkins then hell yer he didnt the far better fighter did so Joe moved up messed the weight up had a career worse display and still had Hopkins acting like his ***** late in the fight.

              Calzone deserves his dues, great fighter.
              Let me ask you something here.

              Why do you think Calzaghe missed fighting some legitmate threats and prime greats throughout his career?

              Why did he stay at 168 taking on guys like Manfredo rather than moving up in weight earlier on and making a bigger name for himself so it would be easier to make the big fights?

              Just asking.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                Let me ask you something here.

                Why do you think Calzaghe missed fighting some legitmate threats and prime greats throughout his career?

                Why did he stay at 168 taking on guys like Manfredo rather than moving up in weight earlier on and making a bigger name for himself so it would be easier to make the big fights?

                Just asking.
                Which fights? Which legitmate threats?

                @168 he fought everyone except the aforementioned Ottke/beyer, johnson is a red herrring the guy has no credentials at 168, go and look at his record. he asked for Bhop, Bhop said no.

                lolfredo was not calzaghe choise, it was HBO's they told him thats who he had to fight to get exposure, I can link 10 interviews where Calzaghe complained long and hard about that fight.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hammerhiem
                  Which fights? Which legitmate threats?

                  @168 he fought everyone except the aforementioned Ottke/beyer, johnson is a red herrring the guy has no credentials at 168, go and look at his record. he asked for Bhop, Bhop said no.

                  lolfredo was not calzaghe choise, it was HBO's they told him thats who he had to fight to get exposure, I can link 10 interviews where Calzaghe complained long and hard about that fight.
                  You telling me he couldnt even find the time in all those years to move up and fight a glen johnson or someone like that?

                  Thats what im talking about, when you division is one of the worst in boxing, and you claim you want the big fights, why not move up a weight and really make a name for yourself?

                  He couldnt have gone to america earlier on in his career and made a bigger name for himself so he had a better chance?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                    Ermmm no.

                    Mayweather made hatton an offer in the past which team Hatton admitted they turned down.

                    Mayweather Himself said it was the HBO call out by hatton which made the fight happen when it did.

                    Ps. Calzaghe could have moved up a division alot earlier, rather than staying in that cesspool called 168 for years.
                    Wait a minute.. Mayweather said it? Oh ok, it's legit then.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Are you a WWE fan? You actually believe all this HBO 24/7 hype crap? You actually believe the fight was based on Hatton calling Floyd "boring"? Seriously.......?

                      Do you also think that David Haye and Wlad just "bumped into each other" when they had their confrontation?

                      If so, I cant be arsed having this discussion. Mayweather fought Hatton because it would make him a tonne of money for a relatively easier fight than any others available at 147. Full stop. Not because Hatton called him names lol.

                      The Castillo fight did make it bigger as Hatton destroyed a guy who was a household name, that Mayweather had previously struggled with, in front of a US audience. Its not rocket science....


                      Bingo, Floyd took the fight because it was a huge money fight and very marketable. He didnt do it to "teach hatton a lesson" everyone calls out the top guys, everyone wants the money fights. Floyd would still be fighting if he fought everyone who called him a name or talked trash about him on TV.

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