Ricky Hatton Deserves Credit For This At Least

[Technical_Skill]

Yeah and Team Hatton turned it down because they wanted tune up fights in the States first to make Hatton a star there.

Lol @ anyone believing that Hatton calling him "boring" made him sign the fight. Yeah thats right, like dudes havent been calling him a coward the past few years without getting fights. Dont be so niave. That was all HBO 24/7 smoke and mirrors to hype the fight.

Calzaghe move up a division and fight who? Jones? The guy who wouldnt even fight his main rival there?

It was the fact it was done on HBO, floyd doesnt really watch fights and i dont think he saw it live, infact at the time floyd was considering a long term break from boxing. However when he was alerted to what hatton said, he was seriously pissed off at how hatton had done it that way on HBO. Mayweather said he would ditch plans of a break to teach Hatton a lesson and apparently told Ellerbe "Make the f.ucking fight happen"

This is why leonard ellerbe came on UK radio in retailiation (BBC) saying if Hatton wanted the fight it can happen at 147 and that hatton wouldnt take the fight cos he would got knocked out.

Hatton kinda had no choice really after that, he either could publicly turn the fight down (again) or accept the fight.

Which is probably why the fight happened at that time. Think about it, Hatton mayweather could have made big money before the castillo fight, even before the urango fight, and its not as if the urango and castillo fights massively improved hatton's notoriety in the USA so much, that fight had been hyped and could have made big money before those two fights.

Ps. Prime roy jones would not leave america after the olympics, if you wanted roy, you had to go to the US and fight him. If calzaghe wanted a big payday against a toney or jones type fighter, he should have done more, no excuses for fighting kabery salem et al.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It was the fact it was done on HBO, floyd doesnt really watch fights and i dont think he saw it live, infact at the time floyd was considering a long term break from boxing. However when he was alerted to what hatton said, he was seriously pissed off at how hatton had done it that way on HBO. Mayweather said he would ditch plans of a break to teach Hatton a lesson and apparently told Ellerbe "Make the f.ucking fight happen"

This is why leonard ellerbe came on UK radio in retailiation (BBC) saying if Hatton wanted the fight it can happen at 147 and that hatton wouldnt take the fight cos he would got knocked out.

Hatton kinda had no choice really after that, he either could publicly turn the fight down (again) or accept the fight.

Which is probably why the fight happened at that time. Think about it, Hatton mayweather could have made big money before the castillo fight, even before the urango fight, and its not as if the urango and castillo fights massively improved hatton's notoriety in the USA so much, that fight had been hyped and could have made big money before those two fights.

Are you a WWE fan? You actually believe all this HBO 24/7 hype crap? You actually believe the fight was based on Hatton calling Floyd "boring"? Seriously.......?

Do you also think that David Haye and Wlad just "bumped into each other" when they had their confrontation?

If so, I cant be arsed having this discussion. Mayweather fought Hatton because it would make him a tonne of money for a relatively easier fight than any others available at 147. Full stop. Not because Hatton called him names lol.

The Castillo fight did make it bigger as Hatton destroyed a guy who was a household name, that Mayweather had previously struggled with, in front of a US audience. Its not rocket science....

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Ps. Prime roy jones would not leave america after the olympics, if you wanted roy, you had to go to the US and fight him. If calzaghe wanted a big payday against a toney or jones type fighter, he should have done more, no excuses for fighting kabery salem et al.

When did I say he had to leave America? WTF?

James Toney? Do you have any concept of time? Toney was a Cruiser by the time Calzaghe fought for his first world title.

Done more? Like what? It sounds so easy but Ive yet to hear what he should've done. He signed to fight Bernard Hopkins in a big fight but Hopkins pulled out. What more could he have done?

[Technical_Skill]

Are you a WWE fan? You actually believe all this HBO 24/7 hype crap? You actually believe the fight was based on Hatton calling Floyd "boring"? Seriously.......?

Do you also think that David Haye and Wlad just "bumped into each other" when they had their confrontation?

If so, I cant be arsed having this discussion. Mayweather fought Hatton because it would make him a tonne of money for a relatively easier fight than any others available at 147. Full stop. Not because Hatton called him names lol.

The Castillo fight did make it bigger as Hatton destroyed a guy who was a household name, that Mayweather had previously struggled with, in front of a US audience. Its not rocket science....

Hatton beat a shot castillo in a fight that i dont think was even PPV in the USA, it was hardly a fight that made hatton a massive star in the USA.

Previous to that you said team hatton wanted to make him a star in the USA before mayweather.........thats why he took on Juan Urango in another megafight which would make him a massive star in america.

The Hatton mayweather fight could have happened before the castillo and urango fights and still made huge money, those two fights didnt make it a big spectacle. The HBO call out played a big part in the fight happening in my opinion, Floyd intended on taking a break from the sport after the de la hoya win (unless there was a rematch) and he himself has said when he saw hatton say that, he made his mind up that he wanted to fight once again.

Which is why a pissed off Ellerbe went on UK radio calling Hatton a bum and saying floyd wanted the fight asap.

Now if you are asking me who to believe, You (nobody) or Mayweather himself and Ellerbe, I know which one I choose.

[Technical_Skill]

When did I say he had to leave America? WTF?

James Toney? Do you have any concept of time? Toney was a Cruiser by the time Calzaghe fought for his first world title.

Done more? Like what? It sounds so easy but Ive yet to hear what he should've done. He signed to fight Bernard Hopkins in a big fight but Hopkins pulled out. What more could he have done?

Yeah, you need to re-read, I said James Toney or Roy Jones type fighter, someone of that Ilk in and around his weight class.

Frank Warren wanted jones to come to the UK, knowing full well jones wasnt gonna do that.

But yeah, calzaghe had no choice but to stay in the ****test division in boxing taking on fighters like evans ashira, rather than move up a weight, get some wins, in another weight class, make a name for himself, then get some big fights.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Hatton beat a shot castillo in a fight that i dont think was even PPV in the USA, it was hardly a fight that made hatton a massive star in the USA.

Previous to that you said team hatton wanted to make him a star in the USA before mayweather.........thats why he took on Juan Urango in another megafight which would make him a massive star in america.

The Hatton mayweather fight could have happened before the castillo and urango fights and still made huge money, those two fights didnt make it a big spectacle. The HBO call out played a big part in the fight happening in my opinion, Floyd intended on taking a break from the sport after the de la hoya win (unless there was a rematch) and he himself has said when he saw hatton say that, he made his mind up that he wanted to fight once again.

Which is why a pissed off Ellerbe went on UK radio calling Hatton a bum and saying floyd wanted the fight asap.

Now if you are asking me who to believe, You (nobody) or Mayweather himself and Ellerbe, I know which one I choose.

Yeah ok. Hatton calling Mayweather boring set up the fight. There were no other factors involved. Mayweather fights everyone that calls him a name

I think I might call him a tosser and get my big money fight!

[Technical_Skill]

Yeah ok. Hatton calling Mayweather boring set up the fight. There were no other factors involved. Mayweather fights everyone that calls him a name

I think I might call him a tosser and get my big money fight!

You still aint got it have you.

There were other factors involved like money, but those factors existed before the castillo and urango fights, those fights didnt make a big difference on the money side.

Hatton vs Mayweather had been hyped for years and a big money fight in the making for some time.

All im saying is, in my opinion, the HBO call out by hatton was one of the major reasons the fight happened WHEN IT HAPPENED, as floyd was contemplating a break from the sport , there were rumors he didnt enjoy training anymore, hand problems, all sorts.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yeah, you need to re-read, I said James Toney or Roy Jones type fighter, someone of that Ilk in and around his weight class.

Frank Warren wanted jones to come to the UK, knowing full well jones wasnt gonna do that.

But yeah, calzaghe had no choice but to stay in the ****test division in boxing taking on fighters like evans ashira, rather than move up a weight, get some wins, in another weight class, make a name for himself, then get some big fights.

The two of that ilk in his weight class were Hopkins and Jones. He signed to fight Hopkins. The Jones fight to me, was never viable. Their career paths didnt cross at the same time.

Frank Warren wanted Jones to come to the UK cos thats what Frank Warren can offer. Hes a UK promoter who puts on shows in the UK. If Jones wanted Calzaghe to fight in America, he'd have made him an offer. I dont think either camp made an offer as far as I know. Because the fight wasnt viable.

But hey maybe if Joe had called him boring after the Ashira fight, it could've happened!!!!!!

Move up and fight WHO? You keep saying "move up, get some wins and make a name for himself". Then when I claim thats what Hatton was doing, you say he didnt need to do that to fight Floyd lol

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You still aint got it have you.

There were other factors involved like money, but those factors existed before the castillo and urango fights, those fights didnt make a big difference on the money side.

Hatton vs Mayweather had been hyped for years and a big money fight in the making for some time.

All im saying is, in my opinion, the HBO call out by hatton was one of the major reasons the fight happened WHEN IT HAPPENED, as floyd was contemplating a break from the sport due, there were rumors he didnt enjoy training anymore, hand problems, all sorts.

So why hasnt he fought people that are calling him much worse than "boring" for retiring?

The fight was made solely because of money. And if you think Hatton didnt rise his stock beating Castillo, then you really dont have a clue.

[The Gully Gad]

Yeh you cant knock Hatton for that can ya
He is always willing to fight best and good luck to him..