Comparing Corrales-Castillo II to Nate's performance tonight

[-Antonio-]

What about Casa/Corrales III then?

Regardless, it's unprofessional and not fair because it's breaking the rules. Stripping the titles was just.

But when you look at it this way, Campbell was a ball of energy and outworked Juan Diaz of all people in his last fight. This fight he was running on E from round 7 on. You can look at that and say he was drained. I dont see how you can say the extra weight put Funeka down though. Especially when Campbell is a good puncher. Another thing, Funeka weighted more in the ring.

[BennyST]

if you can't make weight, then get to a weight class where you can and stop trying to pick on little guys

Nate had always made weight before this fight. Now, at an age where he obviously can't and the usual way of training doesn't do it for him, he has already said he is moving up, so you can't fault him for that. First time it's ever happened and he is moving up to 140 now, a weight which he will be able to make.

Anyway, I don't think it was a factor in his win. If anything it was a factor in how close it was because it made it harder for Nate. His stamina was not as good as it has usually been, that much was clear.

[DiegoFuego]

Funeka only wanted to outwork and outbox Nate tonight though so it would have been in his advantage as Nate would have been a little slower. Anyway, this was rather unlike Nate so I think it the weight really worked against him. He was very tired early and later on was utterly exhausted. The weight, and trying to make it obviously drained him quite badly as it's rare to see him that tired. Actually, I don't thin I've ever seen him even cose to be that exhausted in a fight before so the weight eventually worked in Funeka's advantage.

Anyway, you yourself just pointed out that if you were in against a guy that was trying to out-work you then you would not want a weight advantage. Funeka was trying to do just that, so you kind of contradicted yourself a bit there mate. Anyway, in a rematch with Nate at weight, not drained, he would have finished off Funeka in the eleventh, instead he could hardly throw anything after that initial volley.

I disagree completely. Funeka was not in there to outwork Nate. He had Nate's face busted up and bleeding and was double hooking to the body and head. He was trying to do some damage, not pitter pat all night. And he did a lot of damage, but Nate can take it. I still think without the weight Nate doesn't knock this guy down and loses this fight.

[DiegoFuego]

Thats because you dont know what the hell you are talking about. The reason most fighters walk around 10-20 pounds over their fighting weight is because the training camp work takes off that weight. You cant go into camp at or near fighting weight, or you would have no weight to lose dumbass. If a 135lb fighter goes into camp at 140 or even 145, and the camp takes 15-20 pounds off him (sparring, mitts, rope, and everything else) he would be dead on his feet, because he would be losing mass, not fat.

You think Floyd Mayweather loses 10-20 pounds in a training camp? every day of his life is a training camp. That's what I'm talking about. We need more fighters like him who take the sport seriously, not guys who show up out of shape and expect to be Greek gods 3 weeks later.

[Guest]

Interesting thing Funeka weighed 149 1/2 and Nate weighed 147 on the HBO scales the night of the fight.

[DiegoFuego]

Interesting thing Funeka weighed 149 1/2 and Nate weighed 147 on the HBO scales the night of the fight.

why do people always bring this up like it matters? it's not how much you put on as much as it is how bad you kill yourself to make weight. I don't care if you weigh 20 pounds more than the guy on fight night, your body goes through some intense **** making the weight. when one guy doesn't get even close to that weight (138 for a 135lb fight?) he has a HUGE advantage on fight night regardless of what both weigh that night.

[Guest]

why do people always bring this up like it matters? it's not how much you put on as much as it is how bad you kill yourself to make weight. I don't care if you weigh 20 pounds more than the guy on fight night, your body goes through some intense **** making the weight. when one guy doesn't get even close to that weight (138 for a 135lb fight?) he has a HUGE advantage on fight night regardless of what both weigh that night.

Well, he lost his belts. Isn't that good enough for you?
I think how much you put on mattered in the Gatti-Gamache fight for sure

[DiegoFuego]

Well, he lost his belts. Isn't that good enough for you?
I think how much you put on mattered in the Gatti-Gamache fight for sure

but both guys are legally allowed to put on as much as they want come fight night. that's the point. you are both required to make a certain weight, then you can be whatever you want after that moment. I can't believe I have to explain boxing's rules to members on this forum all the time and why they are in place. it's like UFC got big, then people decided it was too brutal and came over to watch boxing, which at least has some rules.

[Guest]

but both guys are legally allowed to put on as much as they want come fight night. that's the point. you are both required to make a certain weight, then you can be whatever you want after that moment. I can't believe I have to explain boxing's rules to members on this forum all the time and why they are in place. it's like UFC got big, then people decided it was too brutal and came over to watch boxing, which at least has some rules.

I don't agree with coming in overweight. I would never say that.
But Campbell paid for doing that by losing his belts.

I've watched boxing before you were born Diego

[DiegoFuego]

I don't agree with coming in overweight. I would never say that.
But Campbell paid for doing that by losing his belts.

I've watched boxing before you were born Diego

Then act like you understand how not making weight is an advantage. That's all I ask. I don't care if you like Nate or hate Nate or whatever, but guys need to be called out when this thing happens. I called Castillo out, I called my favorite fighter Corrales out, I called Guzman out and now I'm calling Nate out. Not making weight should not be tolerated and there should be a bigger penalty for it.

I'm sick of Nate getting a free pass just because he has like 30 kids and 10 grandkids and is bankrupt.