Comparing Corrales-Castillo II to Nate's performance tonight

[DiegoFuego]

idk i tend to think that 2nd round happens regardless. Maybe in the 11th you have a point though. Maybe he is to weak to put together those punches that made room for the big right hand.

In Corrales Case, i think he really KILLED himself to get down to the limit, whereas i dont think Funeka has too much trouble making it down to 135. At least not yet

well Corrales always had problems, 130 and 135, and I believe Funeka is taller so he likely has problems every single camp, but you don't hear about it because he probably doesn't want excuses and because, well, nobody had ever heard of him before

[THE REED]

maybe in Nate's case being in shape would have led to the same result as he won more rounds but didn't score the knockdowns. maybe he would have won anyway, but the point is make weight. that's all I'm asking from fighters.
if boxing is your job, take it seriously and stay in shape all year round. stay around your fighting way like Mayweather, Hopkins, and the other greats did and still do. don't show up to camp having to lose 10 pounds. that's a crock of **** and shows you don't take your career seriously. you only fight twice a year anyway. stay in shape all the time and you can fight three times and increase your yearly earnings by 1/3. failing to make weight is never, ever an excuse. not when guys like B-Hop do it to perfection at age 43.

I agree, for the amount these fighters make... make the weight... Nate seemed pretty genuine in his apology though... just don't do it again.

[DiegoFuego]

But the whole point of my post is, you're not necessarily bringing more knockout power being 3 pounds heavier but dehydrated to the max compared to being 3 pounds lighter but in shape and healthy...

I'd like I can punch harder when and with more force and speed, if I'm in shape and healthy compared to being dehydrated and spent, but with 3 extra pounds on me...

I'd say that's the case in most weight classes but when you're fighting at 135 pounds, 3 pounds is everything. just look at Castillo-Corrales II. it was NOTHING like the first fight. Castillo was shaking him up with every punch

[warp1432]

maybe in Nate's case being in shape would have led to the same result as he won more rounds but didn't score the knockdowns. maybe he would have won anyway, but the point is make weight. that's all I'm asking from fighters.

if boxing is your job, take it seriously and stay in shape all year round. stay around your fighting way like Mayweather, Hopkins, and the other greats did and still do. don't show up to camp having to lose 10 pounds. that's a crock of **** and shows you don't take your career seriously. you only fight twice a year anyway. stay in shape all the time and you can fight three times and increase your yearly earnings by 1/3. failing to make weight is never, ever an excuse. not when guys like B-Hop do it to perfection at age 43.

Most fighters are in the 5-10 pound area when in shape. Hopkins said he weighed 182/183 the other day and he makes 175, so that's almost 10 pounds. It more if he weighed that and had to make 170

[DiegoFuego]

I agree, for the amount these fighters make... make the weight... Nate seemed pretty genuine in his apology though... just don't do it again.

well, may he rest in peace, but I stopped supporting Corrales when he failed to make weight. I still cheered for him but I sure as hell didn't stick up for him after that if something bad was said about him. you lose that right when you screw up.

if you can't make weight, then get to a weight class where you can and stop trying to pick on little guys

[THE REED]

I'd say that's the case in most weight classes but when you're fighting at 135 pounds, 3 pounds is everything. just look at Castillo-Corrales II. it was NOTHING like the first fight. Castillo was shaking him up with every punch

I just feel like the extent of the dehydration equals out the 3 pound weight advantage... nate seemed to look it too...

[DiegoFuego]

Most fighters are in the 5-10 pound area when in shape. Hopkins said he weighed 182/183 the other day and he makes 175, so that's almost 10 pounds. It more if he weighed that and had to make 170

but Nate's saying the week of the fight he's always about 4-5 pounds heavy at the top of the week. that's just bull**** in my book. by fight week, you should be right there, 1 pound or 2 off, but 4-5 is absurd. I doubt any of you play with your careers like that. if your boss demands you be in at 8:00 every day for one week, I doubt any of you show up at 9:00 or 10:00 without damn good excuses.

[THE REED]

well, may he rest in peace, but I stopped supporting Corrales when he failed to make weight. I still cheered for him but I sure as hell didn't stick up for him after that if something bad was said about him. you lose that right when you screw up.

if you can't make weight, then get to a weight class where you can and stop trying to pick on little guys

I hear you... Ill still support Nate... I was let down to hear it, but when I hear how he responded to it... It sounded genuine.... like everything went according to plan and then all the sudden he just couldnt take it off... I'm not excusing it, it should never happen.... I think they should have a rematch. If anything Funeka worked for it... and Nate should give it to him because of the weight.

Although nate says he just can't make 135 anymore, so who knows...

[THE REED]

but Nate's saying the week of the fight he's always about 4-5 pounds heavy at the top of the week. that's just bull**** in my book. by fight week, you should be right there, 1 pound or 2 off, but 4-5 is absurd. I doubt any of you play with your careers like that. if your boss demands you be in at 8:00 every day for one week, I doubt any of you show up at 9:00 or 10:00 without damn good excuses.

I think a better example is, if your Boss demands you to be there by 8... dont leave your house at 755....

[Crazy Dude]

Corrales got caught with a punch he didn't see coming.