I'm sick of all this Paul Williams hype

[Gopgop]

paul williams is the best ever , he is the most brutal and most vicious and the most ruthless champion theres eva been

[ßringer]

Floyd is proven everywhere he fights...any damn fool can see that.

At 140 and every other division below that Floyd fought at? Absolutely. At 147lbs? Absolutely not. He's never faced one single Welterweight. He moved to 154lbs to face Oscar, and fought a Junior Welterweight in Hatton at 147lbs.

At least Mayweather actually WINS his titles instead of SQUATTING on them.

Mayweather took his Welterweight titles from Judah, a guy who shouldn't have even had them considering he was beaten quite convincingly by Baldomir, a part time boxer part time feather duster vendor.

He was offered $8 Million to face the Tijuana smokescreen, Margacheato. He turned it down and opted to face the feather duster vendor instead.

To his cedit, Baldomir was a much bigger man but with his severe lack of skill, he was never any real threat to Floyd.

He then fought Oscar at 154lbs, and Hatton at 147lbs. Then he retired. End of.

[KJB]

paul williams is the best ever , he is the most brutal and most vicious and the most ruthless champion theres eva been

Hes Tommy Hearns! Hes Bob Foster! There is no one like him. Hes from there cloth!

[βetamax]

I like and respect Williams as a fighter but I do agree that he is overrated. I'm sorry but the schooling he received against Quintana still leaves questions in my mind about him. Great fighters don't get beat like that, period.

[mellow_mood]

At 140 and every other division below that Floyd fought at? Absolutely. At 147lbs? Absolutely not. He's never faced one single Welterweight. He moved to 154lbs to face Oscar, and fought a Junior Welterweight in Hatton at 147lbs.



Mayweather took his Welterweight titles from Judah, a guy who shouldn't have even had them considering he was beaten quite convincingly by Baldomir, a part time boxer part time feather duster vendor.

He was offered $8 Million to face the Tijuana smokescreen, Margacheato. He turned it down and opted to face the feather duster vendor instead.

To his cedit, Baldomir was a much bigger man but with his severe lack of skill, he was never any real threat to Floyd.

He then fought Oscar at 154lbs, and Hatton at 147lbs. Then he retired. End of.

dont even waist your time.. he rather prefers to have mayweathers cum all over his eyes so he cant see whats really happening!

[optkliluzn]

Yeah your whole position makes sense EXCEPT the FACT is Paul Williams is DUCKED by everyone! Mosley, Margarito again, cotto, Pavlik, Bhop hell everyone ....he got a fight with Winky kuz Winky's out of options and they are both lefty's

I was discussing this in hypejob thread and I'd like to expand on it further, so I wanted to give it it's own thread.

Let's look at Paul's last 5 fights, shall we?...........

Verno Phillips - Solid fighter, but nothing more than that. Phillips had 10 losses when Paul climbed into the ring with him, was 39 years old, and his best win was a close split decision over Cory Spinks. Williams TKO's him in 8. Who didn't see it coming?

Andy Kolle - The definition of a tin can. Had a 17-1 record against less than stellar opposition, and his best win was who? Matt Vanda? Williams TKO's him in 1. It was to be expected.

Carlos Quintana - Solid former World Champion, not long ago he was favored to be Cotto when they fought. Had a 25-1 record at the time of their rematch, his best win was an unexpected UD schooling of hot young prospect Joel Julio. Williams TKO's him in 1, not what we expected at all.

Carlos Quintana - See above. Only this time, Quintana kicks Williams goofy looking ass around the ring for the full 12 rounds and takes his title. Williams loses a pretty wide UD. (I scored it 116-112)

Antonio Margarito - Not exactly the world beater he was hyped up to be, eh? Was 34-4 when he met Williams, pre-Cotto, and pre-handwrap controversy. Williams wins a clearcut UD and takes Tony's title.

Now who did he fight before them? Santos Pakkau? Walter Matthysse? The blown up corpse of Shamba Mitchell?

And who is Paul fighting next? The bloated corpse of Winky Wright, a guy who Hopkins walked through in 2007. A guy who hasn't had a fight in almost 2 years by the time April rolls around.

Is this the record of a man who, according to Max Kellerman (and many fans here) "has two weight divisions paralyzed with fear"?

I certainly don't think so.

[El Dominicano]

I really don't know what to say. I'm not seeing anyone overate him except a few, but how can anyone dislike a guy for fighting so often? All he does is fight whoever they put infront of him, he ain't the guy to blame for his lack of competition

I know alot of people are sick and tired of hearing so and so ducked Paul Williams but seriously, as much as you don't want to hear it...it is the damn truth

I wouldn't want to fight a 6'2 dude with longer reach then Wlad, a dude who isn't even a big name and could possibly beat me. That is a HUGE risk, so I believe Paul's path is to fight whoever there is and make a name for himself


Still, you gotta love The Punisher, I've yet to see a reason to hate the guy

[ßringer]

Yeah your whole position makes sense EXCEPT the FACT is Paul Williams is DUCKED by everyone! Mosley, Margarito again, cotto, Pavlik, Bhop hell everyone ....he got a fight with Winky kuz Winky's out of options and they are both lefty's

So now Hopkins ducked him as well? Please. If Quintana took that gangly bastard to school, what do you think Hopkins would do to him?

[Burner]

So now Hopkins ducked him as well? Please. If Quintana took that gangly bastard to school, what do you think Hopkins would do to him?

He KO'd Quitana in a little over a minute with ease.

[Kastrioti]

LOL Hopkins is ducking Williams.