I'm sick of all this Paul Williams hype

[ßringer]

I was discussing this in hypejob thread and I'd like to expand on it further, so I wanted to give it it's own thread.

Let's look at Paul's last 5 fights, shall we?...........

Verno Phillips - Solid fighter, but nothing more than that. Phillips had 10 losses when Paul climbed into the ring with him, was 39 years old, and his best win was a close split decision over Cory Spinks. Williams TKO's him in 8. Who didn't see it coming?

Andy Kolle - The definition of a tin can. Had a 17-1 record against less than stellar opposition, and his best win was who? Matt Vanda? Williams TKO's him in 1. It was to be expected.

Carlos Quintana - Solid former World Champion, not long ago he was favored to be Cotto when they fought. Had a 25-1 record at the time of their rematch, his best win was an unexpected UD schooling of hot young prospect Joel Julio. Williams TKO's him in 1, not what we expected at all.

Carlos Quintana - See above. Only this time, Quintana kicks Williams goofy looking ass around the ring for the full 12 rounds and takes his title. Williams loses a pretty wide UD. (I scored it 116-112)

Antonio Margarito - Not exactly the world beater he was hyped up to be, eh? Was 34-4 when he met Williams, pre-Cotto, and pre-handwrap controversy. Williams wins a clearcut UD and takes Tony's title.

Now who did he fight before them? Santos Pakkau? Walter Matthysse? The blown up corpse of Shamba Mitchell?

And who is Paul fighting next? The bloated corpse of Winky Wright, a guy who Hopkins walked through in 2007. A guy who hasn't had a fight in almost 2 years by the time April rolls around.

Is this the record of a man who, according to Max Kellerman (and many fans here) "has two weight divisions paralyzed with fear"?

I certainly don't think so.

[Guest]

Good thread. Paul Williams sucks.

[savorduhflavor]

Yea, he hasn't earned any of the accolades being thrown his way. P4P top 10? Get the **** outta hear.

But he can be very good. He can take a decent punch(although we haven't seen him in there with a big puncher), and throws a lot of punches. But he's got a lot of defensive flaws, and at WW I think the elites would have beaten him.

I hate hearing "Oh he had a bad night" against Quintana. **** that, he was the same Paul Williams and Quintana just beat him. And than because of the 2nd fight people think the first one just goes away, it's ridiculous.

[El Dominicano]

Then against Bringer? Who else is there for him to face? I still wish the Clottey vs Paul fight would have fallen threw though

[Kastrioti]

Yea, I'm getting the feeling of dejavu here with Williams, IDK why but he reminds me of when Miranda KO'd David Banks in spectacular fashion and all of a sudden he was a force to be reckoned. Williams is good, that's about it, he has shown me nothing in his whole career to tell me that he has potential to be greatness. He was getting outboxed with Quintana, yet just continued with the same gameplan for the whole fight, he couldn't adjust. (BUT HE KO'D HIM IN 1 )In the recent fights he's fought the same as always, so I don't see much improvement. If Wright comes in even close to as good as he fought Hopkins, he will take the decision.

[savorduhflavor]

Then against Bringer? Who else is there for him to face? I still wish the Clottey vs Paul fight would have fallen threw though

Your right that it's not necessarily his fault he hasn't faced great opposition, but that still doesn't change the fact that he hasn't. Sure people ducked him I guess, but that doesn't make him great ya know? The fact of the matter is he still has two decent wins that's it.

[ßringer]

Then against Bringer? Who else is there for him to face? I still wish the Clottey vs Paul fight would have fallen threw though

Well if you ask Paul (or his fans), nobody on the planet wants to fight him. I myself have a very hard time believing that one.

[Nate126]

It's not hype. PDubb is the truth.

[El Dominicano]

Well if you ask Paul (or his fans), nobody on the planet wants to fight him. I myself have a very hard time believing that one.

I know but Cintron didn't want any part of Paul. The only fighter who stepped up was Clottey but nothing ever fell threw. Both Paul and Clottey wanted to fight eachother but as we see Arum doesn't care about Clottey I guess

[egreezy]

By the end of the year you're going to be telling yourself what was I thinking when I made this thread.