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  • #31
    How come Herbie Hide isn't on there?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
      Isn't Kessler the highest p4p out of all of them?

      Certainly canes Wlad on that front.

      Kessler for me, Abraham 2nd.
      With all due respect, Wlad's competition is heads and tails better than Kesslers. No way he is ranked higher P4P. I would have to see some proof for that.

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      • #33
        for some of my Euro homies here to say Wlad is the BEST active Euro fighter is like sayin Celtic is better than Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool......the HW division is similiar to a weak European football league like the one Celtic and Rangers play in......while guys like Kessler and Abraham fight in more competetive divisions like Man U, Arsenal, ect.....
        Kessler's only lost was to Joe in Wales.....nothing to be ashamed of, while Abraham is still in posession of that precious "0"......I say Kessler would beat Abraham head to head so my vote is for Kessler

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        • #34
          Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
          Isn't Kessler the highest p4p out of all of them?
          Certainly canes Wlad on that front.
          Heavyweights always get screwed on p4p. Probably because the whole point of p4p in the first place was to compare everybody else TO heavyweights.

          Tricky one, this. Probably Wlad.

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          • #35
            Gotta say Kessler

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
              for some of my Euro homies here to say Wlad is the BEST active Euro fighter is like sayin Celtic is better than Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool......the HW division is similiar to a weak European football league like the one Celtic and Rangers play in......while guys like Kessler and Abraham fight in more competetive divisions like Man U, Arsenal, ect.....
              Kessler's only lost was to Joe in Wales.....nothing to be ashamed of, while Abraham is still in posession of that precious "0"......I say Kessler would beat Abraham head to head so my vote is for Kessler
              Your soccer/boxing analogy is Bull****

              Wlad is a dominant heavyweight champ, he has a much better resume than Kessler and Abraham.

              Wlad gets my vote

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              • #37
                You get p4p used as an arguing point time and time again. Whilst often I question quite how much weight it has, it does have a considerable amount.

                It's hardly controversial or wrong to stand by most p4p rankings, in saying Mikkel Kessler or Abraham are better than Wlad Klitschko when their miles apart as judged by most p4p rankings in the sport.

                I also argue that the apparent bad state of the HW division is often exaggerated.

                But the fact is, Wlad Klitscko is in a weak division, has a number of losses, is much much lower p4p than Kessler or Abraham, whom even on this site are near to breaking the top 10 p4p.

                It's an absolute no brainer.

                I'm amazed so many have voted otherwise, very flawed.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
                  How come Herbie Hide isn't on there?
                  He's from the UK. This poll is for mainland European boxers.

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                  • #39
                    My Top 5

                    1. Wladimir Klitschko - most accomplished European fighter
                    2. Vitali Klitschko - arguably the best heavyweight in the world
                    3. Mikkel Kessler - best super middleweight in the world
                    4. Arthur Abraham - arguably the best middleweight in the world
                    5. Tomasz Adamek - best cruiserweight in the world

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Low Blow Armo View Post
                      He's also a ***** who avoids AA like slut avoids self respect.
                      shut up newbie. you obviously dont know that abrahams promoters have always wanted the bigger purse for abraham, which isnt gonna happen.

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