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Is Joe Calzaghe a top 50 ATG?

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  • #41
    Between top 80-100

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    • #42
      Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
      That would be why he's outside the top 100 for me.

      Eubank (WBO MW & SMW)
      Woodhall (WBC SMW)
      Reid (WBC SMW)
      Brewer (IBF SMW)
      Sheika
      Mitchell (WBA SMW)
      Lacy (IBF SMW)
      Kessler (WBA/WBC)
      Bhop (WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO MW )
      RJJ (IBF MW - IBF SMW - WBA/WBC/IBF LHW - WBA HW)

      Are or certainly SHOULD be respectable names on anyones resume.
      That's awfully biased there.

      Eubank took the fight on two weeks notice and wasn't a champ at the time they fought, was he?

      Neither was Brewer who was coming off a loss to who should've been Calzaghe's opponent, Antwun Echols.

      And Roy Jones was shot.

      Lacy sadly, isn't really a respectable name.

      The jury is still out on Kessler, just like it is on Calzaghe's legacy. If Kessler continues this...

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      • #43
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        That's awfully biased there.

        Eubank took the fight on two weeks notice and wasn't a champ at the time they fought, was he?

        Neither was Brewer who was coming off a loss to who should've been Calzaghe's opponent, Antwun Echols.

        And Roy Jones was shot.

        Lacy sadly, isn't really a respectable name.

        The jury is still out on Kessler, just like it is on Calzaghe's legacy. If Kessler continues this...
        yeah yeah whatever, names are names, in 10 years no body will even remember much less care that Charles brewer lost or Eubank took the fight on 2 week notice.

        I'm not interested in argueing the why and wherefores of his resume, he's not top 100 simple as.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
          yeah yeah whatever, names are names, in 10 years no body will even remember much less care that Charles brewer lost or Eubank took the fight on 2 week notice.

          I'm not interested in argueing the why and wherefores of his resume, he's not top 100 simple as.
          Yeah you're right, in ten years nobody will remember or care that Calzaghe beat Brewer either.

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          • #45
            He probably is the best ever in his division (super middleweight), legit two weight world champion...

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
              really?

              okay. i take it back.

              eubank was in his prime.

              it doesn't matter that eubank hadn't fought at 168 for 2 years.

              it doesn't matter that eubank was suppose to fight at 190 and had to weight drain to 168 on short notice.

              it doesn't matter that eubank was at the end of his career.

              it doesn't matter that eubank never won a single fight again after fighting joe.

              the chris eubank that joe fought was the best eubank ever seen in the ring!

              Eubanks last 5 fights might have been losing ones but they were his most couragous ones. his 2 against thompson and calzaghe the most! no he wasnt at his best but it was a damn good win nevertheless!

              They might not have been tha best competition but he beat all comer a SM with 20 defences . he had the skills to hang with the best of em in history thats for sure. but me? Id have him about 60ish. but i wouldnt be suprised if well into the future he was placed much much higher!!

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              • #47
                If Calzaghe is and ATG, then Jermaine Taylor is too. He beat Hopkins twice, the first fight was a toss up (which i thought HOpkins should have won) but he won the second fight more convincingly. He also dominated Lacy. he has Calzaghe's resume right there plus another win over B-Hop.
                So does that make Taylor an ATG 2?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by dde91 View Post
                  If Calzaghe is and ATG, then Jermaine Taylor is too. He beat Hopkins twice, the first fight was a toss up (which i thought HOpkins should have won) but he won the second fight more convincingly. He also dominated Lacy. he has Calzaghe's resume right there plus another win over B-Hop.
                  So does that make Taylor an ATG 2?

                  Jt is a bad mofo, But his win over Lacy doesn't compare to Calzaghe's win over Lacy becuase he was already damaged goods after Calzaghe got a hold on him.

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                  • #49
                    Nada.

                    don't think so

                    BP

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