Nigel Benn: "Calzaghe Beats Me, Hagler, Hearns, Sugar"

[Burning Desire]

Who the fcuk are you statto? the new carlton?

Does it matter who i am ? i asked you to point out any of my post in this thread, that hasn't been backed up with facts or has been a biased post. Since you stated that my opinion in this thread has basically been **** and biased. And that makes me laugh my opinion biased ? why don't you ready some of Danny Nolan's post's George Foreman comparable to Jeff Lacy ? and your telling that isn't a biased and a ridiculous post ?

[Edward Hitler]

Poor Daniel Nolan....been here less than a week, and he's already SHOT.

LOL!


Give it up, kid....Boxing forums aren't for you...you're gettin' Owned left and right.

lol if you say so fool y dont you go lynch a few english ppl or fasten some black ppl to a cross in ur white bed sheets.. sad act racist ****

[donray]

Calzaghe beats Hagler, MIGHT beat Hearns if he makes it past 4, but doesn't beat SRL. Hagler had workrate issues noticeable against Leonard and his draw against Antuofermo. Hearns is a frontrunner...but Ray Leonard beats Calzaghe in my opinion.

Joe was not in a league with leonard in terms of boxing skill at MW, hagler dominated duran despite the comments of the biased announcers and scores of the biased judges, that fight wasn't nearly as close as the biased judges, fight commentators and biased fans would have you believe, the only announcer who was calling that fight right was al bernstein who repeatedly stated that hagler was completely outboxing and out****ing duran after the fight the announcer asked duran 3 tiimes if he wanted a rematch with hagler and he avoided the question like the ebola virus he wanted nothing else to do with hagler after that quiet beating he took. Haglers change in strategy was the only thing that prevented duran from getting knocked out the plan was to outbox and out**** duran not to go for the knockout because duran is to elusive for that, you saw what happened to leonard in the first fight and davey moore when they tried to go in there and take durans head off they were dissected and taken apart, hagler knew that strategy wouldn't work so he adopted a different strategy which was not as exciting and decisive as hagler destruct destroy approach which many fans had grown accustomed to, but nevertheless just as effective and it got the job done.

The hagler who fought leonard was just a shell of himself due to all the battles he had been through and his long road to the title the man didn't get his first title shot until his 49th fight that is unheard of in boxing today and would be considered a travesty, but that faded version gave leonard hell and many believe that he still won that fight, a prime hagler would have koed leonard in 7-8 rds im sure of it, and that's why leonard decided to challenge hagler only after he had noticed considerable decline in haglers skills but even that faded version of hagler would have outworked calzaghe and possibly stopped him late a a prime hagler would have battered,punished, and koed joe without question in my opinion.

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26 Pages, well done Benn, look what you've caused

[donray]

Calzaghe beats Hagler, MIGHT beat Hearns if he makes it past 4, but doesn't beat SRL. Hagler had workrate issues noticeable against Leonard and his draw against Antuofermo. Hearns is a frontrunner...but Ray Leonard beats Calzaghe in my opinion.

I think it's actually very possible that Calzaghe could hustle his way to decision Hagler. Hagler did lose to a past his prime Leonard who fought only once in five years and never fought at middleweight. Calzaghe is bigger, fast enough and hits harder than Leonard at middleweight. Hagler had a lot of problems with an old Duran and Duran's best weight was 135-147. Hagler won a very close 15 round decision on Duran. It may have gone the other way if the fight was 12 rounds.

Joe was not in a league with leonard in terms of boxing skill at MW, hagler dominated duran despite the comments of the biased announcers and scores of the biased judges, that fight wasn't nearly as close as the biased judges, fight commentators and biased fans would have you believe, the only announcer who was calling that fight right was al bernstein who repeatedly stated that hagler was completely outboxing and out****ing duran after the fight the announcer asked duran 3 tiimes if he wanted a rematch with hagler and he avoided the question like the ebola virus he wanted nothing else to do with hagler after that quiet beating he took. Haglers change in strategy was the only thing that prevented duran from getting knocked out the plan was to outbox and out**** duran not to go for the knockout because duran is to elusive for that, you saw what happened to leonard in the first fight and davey moore when they tried to go in there and take durans head off they were dissected and taken apart, hagler knew that strategy wouldn't work so he adopted a different strategy which was not as exciting and decisive as hagler destruct destroy approach which many fans had grown accustomed to, but nevertheless just as effective and it got the job done.

The hagler who fought leonard was just a shell of himself due to all the battles he had been through and his long road to the title the man didn't get his first title shot until his 49th fight that is unheard of in boxing today and would be considered a travesty, but that faded version gave leonard hell and many believe that he still won that fight, a prime hagler would have koed leonard in 7-8 rds im sure of it, and that's why leonard decided to challenge hagler only after he had noticed considerable decline in haglers skills but even that faded version of hagler would have outworked calzaghe and possibly stopped him late a a prime hagler would have battered,punished, and koed joe without question in my opinion.

[Edward Hitler]

What the hell are you rambling on about ? and how does Hasim Rahman come into this conversation ? he was an average fighter who got lucky. How in the hell does he compare to legend's like Thomas Hearns, George Foreman ? do you honestly look at the rubbish you type ?

Thomas Hearns destroyed one of the best 10 boxers of all time Roberto Duran, George Foreman destroyed quality fighters like George Chuvlalo, Ken Norton, Joe Frazier.

Are you honestly trying to compare Jeff Lacy to George Foreman ? and maybe Joe Frazier was a hype job ? honestly that has got to be one of the dumbest posts i've ever seen on any forum.

look mate im not compairing the fighter im compairing the fight you cans say that in years to come ppl are gonna look back and not see joes win over lacy as a high point ppl who know more about boxing will no lacy was a hype job as we do but for those who dont follow as much there gonna see it differently the same as ppl who dont no boxing only see forman as the man who ali beat back in the day and not for the hard hittin brawler he actually was thats the point im getting at

[Burning Desire]

every fight he came with a plan joe was a very clever fighter and yeah he took a few nice right hands and went down all boxers go down at some point fact is he got back up and outboxed everyone he faught and how do u no he wouldnt do the same exactly you dont ur speculating talkin a load of dreamworld bull**** i never once said i think joe would beat anyone i think he could have beaten them possibly as they say theres alway a punchers change but you and me both will never no so how can you argue that joe wouldnt have a chance because no one will ever know least of all you and me like i say mate DREAMWORLD !!!!!!!

I never said he wouldn't have a chance, stop putting words into my mouth. All i basically stated was how good Thomas Hearns was, and that Joe Calzaghe is open for right hands when you said Thomas Hearns maybe wouldn't catch him, i said he would i know he would hit him alot with the right hand.

Joe Calzaghe has never met anyone anywhere near as good as a prime Thomas Hearns, and he has never been hit by someone as powerful as Thomas Hearns is. Getting hit by fighters like a shot Roy Jones, Robin Reid, Richie Woodhall, Bernard Hopkins. Is not even comparbable to a prime Thomas Hearns.

[The C.E.O.]

Hey!!!! talking of owned.....Its the old cheeksplitter!

Don't worry, crusty...I won't Own you anymore....I feel bad for how I've treated you and am willing to show mercy upon you....

[Edward Hitler]

I never said he wouldn't have a chance, stop putting words into my mouth. All i basically stated was how good Thomas Hearns was, and that Joe Calzaghe is open for right hands when you said Thomas Hearns maybe wouldn't catch him, i said he would i know he would hit him alot with the right hand.

Joe Calzaghe has never met anyone anywhere near as good as a prime Thomas Hearns, and he has never been hit by someone as powerful as Thomas Hearns is. Getting hit by fighters like a shot Roy Jones, Robin Reid, Richie Woodhall, Bernard Hopkins. Is not even comparbable to a prime Thomas Hearns.

ppl keep sayin hopkin is shot but obviusly he can be that shot if hes still in the p4p list and just whooped pavlik maybe hearns would have knocked the **** out of joe maybe joe would have got a lucky punch and Ko`d hearns in the first anything could have happened .. you think hearns would have won you dont no we would have won like i said no one expecter rahman to beat lewis but he did no1 knows what would have happened all ppl can do is speculate as to what they think could have happened

[Burning Desire]

look mate im not compairing the fighter im compairing the fight you cans say that in years to come ppl are gonna look back and not see joes win over lacy as a high point ppl who know more about boxing will no lacy was a hype job as we do but for those who dont follow as much there gonna see it differently the same as ppl who dont no boxing only see forman as the man who ali beat back in the day and not for the hard hittin brawler he actually was thats the point im getting at

What proof have you got Jeff Lacy was no hype job ? he went life a death with mediocre fighters like Omar Sheika, Syd Vanderspoon, before the Joe Calzaghe fight. And since then he's got 2 gift decisions off C+ class fighters, and struggled against Peter Manfredo for crying out loud. Then lost 11 rounds against Jermain Taylor.

George Foreman proved his worth beating quality fighters, before and after the Muhammad Ali fight. Which is why he is rated high in the all time rankings, and is considered one of the best Heavyweights of all time. People have looked back on him and consider him a great, people won't even remember Jeff Lacy in 20 years only hardcore fans.

And even then he will be considered an overrated prospect. Which he is now only after a few years, Mikkel Kessler, Bernard Hopkins, Chris Eubank, there quality wins the Jeff Lacy win is nothing compared to those wins i just mentioned.