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  • IMDAZED
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    #61
    Originally posted by letsgobrady
    did hopkins ever beat an elite fighter in there prime or natural weight division?
    LOL@ sneaking this in there - especially since Hops has beat several pound for pounders over his career. But humor me...what's natural weight division?

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    • larryx
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      #62
      Originally posted by KrisSilver
      Elite; The best or most skilled members of a group

      So as a matter of fact, yes.
      calzaghe fans have changed the entire definition of a prime elite fighter..gotta love em

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      • Dirk Diggler UK
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        #63
        Originally posted by larryx
        lmfao.................ok ok
        Are you saying Hopkins was not the best at 175 or.........what?

        Being a Mayweather fan, the concept of beating the best in your division must be foreign to you......"lmfao"

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          #64
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          It's funny how the argument always turns into nationality yet the same side keeps bringing it up.
          This is a very good point. I haven't seen one hate post in all of these threads mentioning Calzaghe's nationality.

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          • Dirk Diggler UK
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            #65
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            LOL@ sneaking this in there - especially since Hops has beat several pound for pounders over his career. But humor me...what's natural weight division?
            Its a valid question. Maybe Joe shouldve fought Pacquiao since hes prime and elite and weight is irrelevent

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            • letsgobrady
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              #66
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Sorry dude, Hops wasn't close to his prime. Watch him in 1999, 2000...2001...that was his prime...and that was a long time ago.
              who was bernard fighting in 2000,2001 and 1999?

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              • S A M U R A I
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                #67
                Originally posted by tito yuca
                Ok this is a ****** post/poll because you say it's for Calzaghe FANS, but obviously those that are going to vote will be Calzaghe haters, and they'll all vote NO.

                The whole definition of what makes someone "elite" is so subjective it's not even worth discussing. Ricky Hatton has been in the top 10 P4P for years and anyone who tries to tell me he's more skilled than Kessler should ****in' die.

                Lacy might not have been "elite", but everyone picked him to KO Calzaghe, and not because they thought Calzaghe ******, but because everyone was on Lacy's nuts so hard. So that win, especially when you consider what Joe did to him, definitely qualifies as a victory over a prime, elite fighter.

                Also, the whole "prime" thing is ******. Some fighters are so good, that even outside of their prime they still do stuff that no one expects them to do. We recently saw this with Mosley beating Margarito. While Hopkins was not in his "prime", he was still ranked top 5 P4P, so why all the talk about "prime AND elite", it's really pointless. Some fighters don't have to be in their prime to be elite, and others may be viewed as elite by some people, but not by ALL people. The point I'm trying to make is that it's very easy to try to discredit someone's resume by picking it apart like this, and it can be done with every fighter.
                Good post. Green K.



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                • IMDAZED
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Its a valid question. Maybe Joe shouldve fought Pacquiao since hes prime and elite and weight is irrelevent
                  So what does "natural" weight division mean?

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                  • Edward Hitler
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Zmlacksz
                    Forget about Calzaghe, but the 43 year old Hopkins beats the 99-2001 versions. His body is still holding out and his tricks have got better.
                    at least some1 agrees with me lol

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                    • Sir Tom Jones
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by dans01234
                      Did Joe Calzaghe ever beat an elite fighter in their prime? Vote and let me know who.
                      hey lil whining ***** grow some

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